Special Containment Procedures: SCP-XXXX is currently contained in the REM sleep dream state of Junior Researcher Eric Mattison. Mattison has been provided C-Class lodgings in the Site-11 Oneiric Research Wing.
Updated Procedures: As of 15/07/2024, Mattison has been provided C-Class lodgings in an isolated Secure Wing at Site-11, located 200m away from any other lodging wing. All personnel that come within 60m of Mattison's lodgings must carry at least one self-injecting needle, containing a small dose of DREM-01, to be used immediately if they find themselves likely to enter a REM sleep state. If any personnel encounter a fellow Foundation employee in a REM sleep state within 60m of Mattison's lodgings, they are to wake them immediately by any means necessary. Should aural and impact based methods fail, personnel are to retrieve an emergency adrenaline injector and administer it to the subject.
Description: SCP-XXXX is a sapient oneiric environmental entity that possesses the ability to absorb the Oneiric Energy (OE) of anyone within a certain range that enters a REM sleep dream state. This ability is difficult to study or make any concrete determinations about due to the necessity of Foundation personnel allowing the entity to absorb their dreams in order to communicate with it directly.
Addendum XXXX-1: Incident Report: 14/07/2024
SUMMARY: On 14/07/2024, Site-11 was involved in a major spatial alteration, consisting of objects or otherwise incorporeal entities manifesting from the REM sleep state of other Foundation staff and anomalies within the site. Lockdown Response Code 131/D/Magenta was initiated following the manifestation of such entities and objects.
Five minutes after the Response Code was initiated, MTF μ-13 ("Ghostbusters") were deployed to contain and combat most of the manifested entities. Despite the manifestations initially being unable to interact with corporeal matter, several of them appeared to gain this ability after a period of time.
During this time, MTF 𝝤-12 ("Oneironauts") were unable to locate SCP-XXXX for forty-five minutes. After finding SCP-XXXX within the underground bunker of Site-11 located within the Oneiric Wing, it showed to have suffered heavy sleep deprivation, and was applied a moderate dose of DREM-01 after coming into contact with 𝝤-12. All manifestations disappeared from Site-11 shortly after SCP-XXXX entered REM sleep.
Additionally, SCP-XXXX was moved to a separate wing as a result of this incident.
Addendum XXXX-2: Expedition Log & Incident Report: 19/12/2024
Due to the correlation between Incident-XXXX-02 and the operation taken within SCP-XXXX, both events have been placed under the same addendum.
SUMMARY: During operation ("Dreamscaper"), SCP-XXXX affected Site-11 in a spatial alteration, causing the levitation of several objects and manifestation of objects or otherwise incorporeal entities. This effect gradually increased in severity overtime, and appeared to be adjacent to the stress SCP-XXXX underwent during the operation.
As a result, Lockdown Response Code 131/D/Magenta was initiated to limit personnel casualty. On-site officers were initially deployed to combat the manifestation of incorporeal entities, but due to the increasing severity of the situation, half of MTF μ-13 ("Ghostbusters") were deployed.
The other half of μ-13 were stationed to SCP-XXXX's isolated wing, bringing briefcases containing several syringes filled with lorazepam (Ativan). Due to the severity and importance of the operation, the remaining members of μ-13 were tasked with injecting half the contents of lorazepam syringes into SCP-XXXX, should spatial alteration reach a severe degree. This task was to lower the efforts needed to complete operation ("Dreamscaper").
Overseer: Dr. Natalie Kissinger
MTF Squadron: 𝝤-12 ("Oneironauts")
- Captain Joanna "Clip" Klipsch
- Agent Paul "Normal" Norman
- Agent Frederick "Krueger" Coulliard
- Agent Kira "Big K" Towerstone
Foreword: This expedition was instigated by Director Barnaum after Incident-XXXX-01 on 14/07/2024. The team was instructed to enter the oneiric environment currently residing within Mattison's dream state and determine if direct contact with the anomaly could be established.
[BEGIN LOG - Comms and equipment check omitted for brevity]
Captain Klipsch: Alright team, let's go over the plan one more time before we go under. We're going to try to initiate contact with the entity living in Mattison's dream state. We have no information about this thing's abilities, or the extent of its control over the environment. We're going in completely blind, so we need to stay alert in there.
Captain Klipsch places an Oneiric Visualization Matrix (OViM) on her head and motions for her team to do the same.
Normal: This is a hell of a fancy hat, Cap. What's it do?
Krueger: This is an OViM. The team here have been working on it for over a decade, Normal. Do you even read the monthly reports?
Big K: Come on, Krueger, we all know Normal won't read anything that isn't a comic book.
Krueger: Basically, it reads the unique brain waves you produce when in REM sleep and translates them into images. That way, Command can see what's going on in there and record it, rather than us trying to remember a dream.
Normal: So it's a video camera that'll work while we're in the dream. Pretty sweet.
Big K: I could get into the science of why that comparison is so terribly wrong, but we'd be here all night.
Krueger: And he would forget by tomorrow anyway.
Normal: [Laughing] You're not wrong.
Klipsch: TEAM! Focus up. I know it's been a while since we've had an expedition, but this situation is serious. This entity, whatever it is, is clearly more powerful in the oneiric space than anything we've encountered. Yes, that includes you, Krueger. Last I checked, you don't have the ability to manifest yourself in wakespace from inside the dream.
Krueger: [Scoffs] Yet…
Big K: Come on boys, let's put on our nightcaps and hop on the train to sleepy time junction.
Base Power: 100
Base PP: 15 (Maximum 24)
Type: Psychic
Category: Special
Additional effects: Transfers 50% of damage dealt into HP restored to the attacker. Target must be asleep or the attack will fail.
[2020-06-15 17:43:25] <chiifu> the anomaly is an undefinable entity contained within the REM state of the researcher (said entity comes in various forms)
[2020-06-15 17:44:36] <DrFullham> Comas are not sleep
[2020-06-15 17:44:47] <chiifu> okay, induced sleep
[2020-06-15 17:44:48] <DrFullham> Your mind functions very differently
[2020-06-15 17:45:52] <chiifu> apparently research suggests not
[2020-06-15 17:45:58] <chiifu> cause they're unresponsive and stuff
[2020-06-15 17:46:30] <DrFullham> My general concept was a sapient dream
[2020-06-15 17:46:49] <DrFullham> Sort of an inverse lucid dream
[2020-06-15 17:46:56] <DrFullham> Where the dream itself is a living thing
[2020-06-15 17:47:25] <chiifu> i was thinking something like a lucid dream too, except instead of the sleeping person controlling the environment it'd be the said entity (actually that's kinda the same)
[2020-06-15 17:49:04] <DrFullham> Yes and no
[2020-06-15 17:49:22] <DrFullham> One is a distinct entity within the dream that could potentially be fought, reasoned with, or contained
[2020-06-15 17:49:29] <DrFullham> The other is the dream itself
[2020-06-15 17:54:25] <DrFullham> So, it's contained in his dream because it's a part of his dream?
[2020-06-15 17:54:50] <DrFullham> perhaps anyone who sleeps within a certain range of him, their dreams can be sort of …
[2020-06-15 17:54:58] <DrFullham> combined
[2020-06-15 17:55:06] <chiifu> i was thinking the same thing
[2020-06-15 17:55:15] <chiifu> like a connected dream
[2020-06-15 17:56:13] <chiifu> should we make it hard as shit to contain
[2020-06-15 17:56:55] <DrFullham> Easy to contain but absolutely vital it must not break containment
[2020-06-15 17:57:02] <DrFullham> Can add a lot of tension if done right
[2020-06-15 17:57:16] <DrFullham> Every researcher on this guy's site
[2020-06-15 17:57:20] <DrFullham> No midday naps
[2020-06-15 17:57:23] <DrFullham> No sleeping in the office
[2020-06-15 17:57:44] <DrFullham> You cannot fucking fall asleep around this guy, period
[2020-06-15 17:57:58] <DrFullham> What if
[2020-06-15 17:58:07] <DrFullham> It steals your ability to dream
[2020-06-15 17:58:32] <chiifu> anyone who falls asleep near the guy is uncapable of dreaming for the rest of their life
[2020-06-15 17:58:42] <DrFullham> It absorbs the other dreams
[2020-06-15 17:59:03] <DrFullham> And every time it does, its dreamscape gets bigger, and the area that it can affect grows
[2020-06-15 17:59:18] <DrFullham> Left unchecked it would make the entire human race unable to dream in a matter of days.
[2020-06-15 17:59:42] <DrFullham> And have the big reveal be that like
[2020-06-15 17:59:53] <DrFullham> Our ability to dream is vital to maintaining the veil
[2020-06-15 18:00:05] <DrFullham> Because we can't use the excuse "It must have just been a dream" anymore!
[2020-06-15 18:00:57] <DrFullham> THC changes the way your brain works when you dream
[2020-06-15 18:01:06] <DrFullham> So maybe they have to keep this guy high all the time
[2020-06-15 18:01:13] <DrFullham> Because it limits this thing's power
[2020-06-15 18:04:04] <DrFullham> Nah, he sleeps
[2020-06-15 18:04:14] <DrFullham> He's just kinda limited in his dreaming
[2020-06-15 18:04:35] <DrFullham> Keeping him awake constantly would be the easy answer but eventually that will just kill you
[2020-06-15 18:04:57] <DrFullham> Maybe they can't do that because, like, the longer you stay awake, the heavier you sleep, right?
[2020-06-15 18:05:14] <DrFullham> They need to keep his sleep shallow and limit his dreams
[2020-06-15 18:06:15] <chiifu> so he's essentially only limited to a few hours awake per day
[2020-06-15 18:06:53] <chiifu> actually we could make it so he ‘doesn’t‘ know he’s the carrier for the anomaly
[2020-06-15 18:07:29] <chiifu> stress can affect dreams, right? so that'd work
[2020-06-15 18:07:37] <chiifu> the more you're stressed, the stronger it gets
[2020-06-15 18:07:53] <DrFullham> Oooooooh what if what if
[2020-06-15 18:08:16] <DrFullham> The original containment is they try to force him to a semi-permanent non-REM sleep state
[2020-06-15 18:08:41] <DrFullham> But just like staying awake too long, sleeping, even without REM, too long makes it stronger
[2020-06-15 18:08:57] <DrFullham> And they see it start to actually start to manifest into the physical world via this guy
[2020-06-15 18:09:19] <DrFullham> So if it can do that, imagein what it could do with a bunch of peoples
[2020-06-15 18:09:23] <DrFullham> and their dreams
[2020-06-15 18:09:37] <chiifu> that'd be hella strong
[2020-06-15 18:09:58] <DrFullham> And, potentially, a second big twist
[2020-06-15 18:10:06] <DrFullham> They find someone else with the same thing
[2020-06-15 18:10:20] <DrFullham> So now they have no idea how many of these tyhings there might be
[2020-06-15 18:10:23] <chiifu> omg
[2020-06-15 18:10:25] <chiifu> several carriers
[2020-06-15 18:10:33] <chiifu> that'd be sick
[2020-06-15 18:11:40] <DrFullham> The concept of shared dreams and the collective unconscious could be fun
<chiifu> right. so i was just wondering how we're gonna handle the big reveal with several carriers?
13:40:32 <DrFullham> That…..is a good question
13:40:58 I figure it makes the most sense if it reeveals it to them at the end
13:41:13 <chiifu> of the expedition?
13:41:16 <DrFullham> like, the old "you think you've won, but you have no idea what I'm really capable of" beat
13:41:53 <chiifu> ah, yeah. that works. something with that slick dialogue of yours
13:42:14 <DrFullham> Or maybe they find some way to separate it form Mattison, to "free" him somehow, but then get reports of others having the same sympoms or something
13:42:24 *symptoms
13:44:10 <ufiihc> chiifu both could work. im sorta digging the first option more, since im not sure how they'd go about "freeing" him yet.
13:44:52 <DrFullham> True
13:45:08 I suppose they're ultimately there just to learn about it
13:45:26 Still need to nail down its motivation, too
13:45:48 <DrFullham> Unless we want to go with "this is just how I am" angle, which I still do like
13:46:24 <chiifu> maybe we could tie it in with the reveal?
13:47:16 <DrFullham> Yeah
13:48:21 Also need to confirm its communication method, are we married to having it talk like the Board? Or would it make more sense that it can actually speak, since it's in human dreams and would thus have access to language?
13:48:47 <chiifu> i was thinking something along the lines of the hiss, actually
13:48:52 like how dylan speaks
13:49:01 <DrFullham> Oh, I can dig that
13:49:24 <chiifu> sounds good then
13:49:29 <DrFullham> I also thought maybe it's constantly shifting, like Genie from Aladdin but in a really creepy way
13:50:14 Like….have you ever seen A Scanner Darkly?
13:50:29 <chiifu> nope, i am taking a peek right now
13:50:40 <DrFullham> Specifically look up the face shifting thing
13:51:53 <chiifu> oh i like that
13:51:57 <DrFullham> So it's just constantly cycling through all these appearances taken from the dreams of people he's eaten
13:52:06 <chiifu> that's pretty cool, i dig it
13:55:04 <DrFullham> So, I'm thinking that the big show-down with Kreuger is triggered because this thing is, of course, slowly absorbing their dreams while they're in there
13:55:56 <chiifu> that works out, yeah
13:57:03 <DrFullham> Krueger tries to provoke it, of course
13:57:26 Maybe he starts seeing Normal freak out as he's feeling his dreams, his sanctuary, be taken from him?
13:58:24 <chiifu> i can see that.
13:59:21 by the way, does mattison like, control the dreamscape to his advantage?
14:00:16 <DrFullham> I don't think so, I think the 'vore has basically completely absorbed it by now
14:00:41 So Mattison is asleep and like, witnessing the dream, but he's not *in* the dream anymore, if that makes sense?
14:01:30 <chiifu> ah yeah, i get it
14:02:47 actually wait, i need a bit more clarification. so he's not inside the dream, but watching it
14:02:51 as if he's watching his own dream
14:03:13 <DrFullham> Yeah
14:03:50 <chiifu> and the team can converse with him, albeit 'hiss-like'
14:03:51 <DrFullham> Like, being in the dream means you still have a measure of control; once the OV has eaten your dream entirely, you disappear from it, but it's still taking place in your head
14:04:11 <chiifu> ahh
14:04:11 <DrFullham> Oh, I didn't think you meant communicate with it via Mattison
14:04:11 <chiifu> okay
14:04:28 <DrFullham> Is that what you meant?
14:04:47 <chiifu> oh yea. are we having the team communicate with it via mattison? or the vore itself?
14:04:54 either's fine, just need clarification
14:05:01 <DrFullham> I'm thinking itself
14:05:11 <chiifu> im up with that
14:05:18 <DrFullham> Maybe it first appears in the dream looking like Mattison to fool them
14:05:41 <chiifu> cool with me. there's a lot of vivid imagery present
14:06:06 <DrFullham> Yeah
14:06:13 We're gonna go realll visual with it
14:06:24 <chiifu> yess i like
14:06:28 <DrFullham> Considering this is all done via what the OViMs record
14:06:52 <chiifu> gotcha
14:09:29 okay yeah, that's pretty cool. back to the reveal bit, we know what we want to do, but how is it going to be handled? other than "you thought you beat me, but i was only using 5% of my power" type deal
14:10:03 <DrFullham> That's a good question
14:10:11 Gonna have to think on that one a bit
14:10:36 Like, I kinda want to avoid the "villain monologues and gives his plan away" trope but I also kinda love that trope
14:10:53 <chiifu> maybe implication?
14:13:44 <DrFullham> Yeah, that would probably be best
14:14:39 <chiifu> are they all going to be separate entities?
14:15:52 <DrFullham> No, I think it being one makes the most sense
14:16:00 <chiifu> same here
14:16:05 <DrFullham> Kinda works better with the whole collective subconscious tthing
14:16:20 <chiifu> oui
14:16:34 <DrFullham> We may even be able to work in a lovecraftian bit at the end
14:17:00 Maybe it shows them its "true form" and it's just this big eye with tentacles reaching out into all these other dreams or something
14:17:32 Hell, maybe it purposefully lets Mattison go because it's a way for them to find it, and it doesn't want that
14:17:53 <chiifu> ohh, maybe then that'd make sense why they "free" mattison
14:18:02 <DrFullham> I kinda want to give it a "no u" kind of line to throw back at Krueger
14:18:12 like "you'
14:18:28 *"you've only ever had nightmares, well I invented the nightmare" or something
14:18:44 <chiifu> and then the massive fight
14:18:52 <DrFullham> No, that's after the fight
14:18:57 When it lets them think they've won
14:19:07 And is then like "oh whoops I'm actually basically a god"
14:19:17 <chiifu> accurate
14:19:50 i sorta want to give it a different form other than just "tentacles with eye", since that's like staple lovecraftian
14:20:08 <DrFullham> Yeah
14:20:18 That was just an off the top of my head kinda thing
14:20:21 Hmmmmm
14:20:22 <chiifu> maybe something with books/pages?
14:20:23 <DrFullham> Maybe we Matrix it
14:20:34 Person in a chair watching a bunch of TVs
14:20:41 But then the chair turns and their face is just EYES
14:21:00 <chiifu> 👁️
14:21:04 <DrFullham> "Oh you thought Matrix? GUESS WHAT SURPRISE LOVECRAFT"
14:21:10 <chiifu> yeah, that sounds cool
14:21:38 make the entire face just pitch black, so it's only just 👁️
14:22:59 <DrFullham> Yeee
14:23:05 <chiifu> yes
14:24:10 like, the entire floor (assuming they're on one), just falls and they go down a huge spiral; enter a room full of TVs and just BOOM LOVECRAFT
14:24:30 <DrFullham> Definitely
14:25:51 <chiifu> alright, cool cool. that handles the reveal and everything
<DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Hmmm
20:21:54 Not sure if it'll come up in the article at all, but I had a thought about Normal
20:22:11 <chiifu> yeah?
20:22:27 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham I wonder if maybe he has like, a crazy ability to remember dreams
20:22:42 Moreso than in the wakespace
20:22:57 <chiifu> crazy enough to be anomalous?
20:23:01 or just like, weird crazy
20:23:03 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham And perhaps that's why he's on the team, and why he's skeptical of the OViMs
20:23:33 It was mostly triggered by me re-reading what we have, when they say he'd forget what they said about it by the next day
20:23:49 So maybe he's forgetful of the "real world" but super crazy good at recalling dreams
20:23:59 <chiifu> actually hearing that is making me form a little backstory
20:24:03 two, in fact
20:24:52 1. normal has suffered some kind of trauma irl, so he directed his focus towards his dreams, since he's more 'free' there
20:25:40 actually scratch the second one
20:26:02 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham I can vibe with that
20:26:12 His forgetfulness as a sort of defense mechanism
20:26:16 <chiifu> yeah
20:26:38 i came up with it after the watching the show "Little Busters". i should've mentioned it at some point
20:27:44 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Again, may not even come up
20:27:48 <chiifu> yea
20:27:50 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham But I vibe with it
20:27:56 <chiifu> could be it's own self-contained story, if you so feel
20:30:13 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham I kinda dig the idea of each member later getting a tale or something of how they came to be in the 'nauts
20:30:23 <chiifu> i vibe with that
20:30:24 i like it too
20:30:27 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Krueger was part of a different MTF for sure, maybe even several
20:30:31 Cuz the guy loves a fight
20:30:54 <chiifu> i can see a hub forming for this fo sho
20:30:55 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Big K was probably research originally, wanted more hands-on experience with the Oneiric space
20:31:21 tbh I'd love to be even partially responsible for Dream SCPs to get more in the spotlight
20:31:29 <chiifu> they don't get love
20:31:29 :(
20:31:30 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham I feel like it's ripe for the picking and just kinda gets ignored
20:31:46 But dreams are fuckin great because you can do *anything*
20:31:56 <chiifu> yess
20:31:58 so much creativity
20:32:23 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham The world is minecraft, and dreams are creative mode
20:32:34 <chiifu> nice analogy
20:32:53 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Danke
20:33:17 Analogies and naming things are my true strengths in writing, lmao
20:33:23 <chiifu> but yeah, i can get behind having backstories for the MTF
20:33:45 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Honestly, thinking Krueger might even be an ex-con
20:34:04 He's definitely a "bad boy" archetype, almost certainly has some ink
20:34:10 <chiifu> i can see it
20:34:29 in for the pay and the action
20:34:37 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Also for some reason I imagine Normal and Krueger as being really good friends
20:35:01 sort of odd couple dynamic, like, "we have nothing in common but we get along great anyway" kinda thing
20:35:16 <chiifu> maybe krueger is one of those unironic best friends
20:35:17 yeah
20:35:29 i like those takes on friendships, tbh
20:35:32 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Krueger gets a laugh out of making Normal believe crazy shit from his past
20:35:53 <chiifu> also seeing a soft side for krueger just warms me up
20:36:01 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham But also, going back to your thing about Normal's history, they're exact opposites in that
20:36:18 For Normal, dreams were the escape, for Krueger, he hated to sleep because he only ever had nightmares
20:36:36 <chiifu> but you know the rule
20:36:39 "opposites attract"
20:36:42 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Perhaps that's what got him jailed in the first place; stealing sleep meds so he could sleep without dreaming
20:37:09 Then he got used to those and had to go for something stronger. Heroin. Tranquilizers.
20:37:30 <chiifu> i vibe with it
20:37:39 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham All because he just got sick of the nightmares.
20:37:41 Poor guy
20:37:45 <chiifu> definitely
20:38:00 also seeing him console normal due to his trauma is a pretty vivid image i keep having
20:38:16 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham ooh, I like that
20:38:17 <chiifu> maybe he wants to see him come to terms with reality
20:38:36 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham I imagine Krueger and Normal having a beer, and Normal just lets something slip and tries to brush it off
20:38:53 Four hours later he's still crying about the scars from his dad's belt…
20:39:22 And all Krueger can think is "that son of a bitch had better hope he never meets me"
20:39:29 <chiifu> yess i like that
20:41:13 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Getting emotional about your own OCs, the sign of a writer
20:41:19 <chiifu> classic
20:41:24 makes me want to write it up
20:41:42 but you thought it up, so you make the shotcalls
20:41:45 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Now what about Klipsch?
20:41:50 <chiifu> hmm, true
20:41:59 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham She seems pretty straightforward, honestly.
20:42:10 Ex-soldier, possible ex-CIA black ops
20:42:18 <chiifu> im digging the ex-CIA
20:42:21 but that's just me
20:42:24 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Someone who has been through the shit and rose above it all
20:42:41 <chiifu> made her way through the world via brute force
20:42:43 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham And she is *fiercely* protective of her team.
20:43:06 They are the closest thing to family she's had in years, if not decades, and as much as they get on her nerves, they're her 'nauts
20:43:14 <chiifu> i can see it
20:43:36 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham I kinda like imagining them as a family unit
20:43:46 <chiifu> they all live together
20:44:05 oh, maybe they have their own division
20:44:14 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Klipsch, the slightly overwhelmed but never showing it single mom, Big K, the responsible, smart older sister, and then Normal and Krueger, the two brothers that constantly bicker but love each other
20:44:36 <chiifu> i love the normal and krueger dynamic
20:44:39 always had a spot for those
20:44:45 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham maybe Normal even calls Big K "Big Sis"
20:44:56 <chiifu> that'd be nice
20:45:03 oh maybe it's linked to his past?
20:45:13 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Ooh, I can dig that
20:45:22 Perhaps he was an only child?
20:45:36 <chiifu> i dig it. or maybe he used to have a sister figure
20:45:47 but she left due to family reasons
20:45:54 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Or, worse
20:45:59 <chiifu> yeah
20:45:59 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Died from the abuse, protecting him
20:46:12 <chiifu> i like that
20:46:15 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham That's fuickin heavy
20:46:19 <chiifu> yess
20:46:34 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham I almost like her leaving better, because it's just….less morbid
20:46:44 <chiifu> it's also very realistic
20:46:49 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Suffering abuse is one thing, then losing a sibling to the same, that's just…..fuck
20:47:07 <chiifu> couldn't take the shit and eventually just dipped
20:47:34 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Yeah, I'd go with her leaving over dying
20:47:41 <chiifu> good with me, i like it
20:48:02 i just thought; what if he meets his sister on the off-chance it happens
20:48:05 that's later on though
20:48:09 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Also not sure about you but I see these stories being told as like, flashbacks during their interviews to be brought into the 'nauts
20:48:10 <chiifu> i wonder how that would fare
20:48:25 i can see it, yeah
20:48:43 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Oh, another thing, just popped into my head
20:48:50 <chiifu> yea?
20:48:51 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Klipsch is an ENORMOUS comic book nerd
20:49:00 Like, has collections dating back to Action Comics #1
20:49:25 <chiifu> haha i like that
20:49:35 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham You see it slip out in little things here and there, like her saying "Oneironauts, assemble" and shit like that
20:50:03 <chiifu> that's a pretty neat detail
20:51:12 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham I love adding minor stuff like that to characters
20:51:19 Just makes them feel more real
20:51:28 <chiifu> man, this is all making me think of a name for the group, other than them being a MTF squad
20:51:40 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Big K is, of course, a huge science nerd, but also has like….a HUGE crush on Neil DeGrasse Tyson
20:51:42 <chiifu> the "Oneiroi Division"
20:51:46 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Posters of him and everything
20:51:57 <chiifu> i love it
20:52:41 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Normal is a wine snob
20:53:00 Got that way from his first girlfriend in college.
20:53:17 <chiifu> just throwing this out there: oneiroi division, comprised of mostly just the oneironaut MTF because they're overlooked.
20:53:26 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham I can see that
20:53:47 <chiifu> yeah, i can see normal being a wine addict
20:53:54 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham I can imagine Site-11 being the sole site with an oneiroi division because it's so rare
20:54:03 <chiifu> yea
20:54:03 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham So maybe one or more of them was reassigned there
20:54:13 Also, not an addict, just a snob
20:54:18 <chiifu> works out ^
20:54:32 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Like, really particualr about pronouncing names correctly, vintage years, etc
20:54:38 <chiifu> yeah, and because they're so tight-nipped they're all real close
20:54:49 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Mhm
20:54:58 the underdog division, as it were
20:55:02 <chiifu> yup
20:55:13 im honestly surprised there isn't a division like this
20:55:18 but again, dream stuff is overlooked
20:55:21 sadly
20:56:24 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Yeah
20:57:11 <chiifu> i am really getting in the groove right now
20:57:32 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Well, write if the need is hitting ya
20:57:39 I can talk rn but not write for shit
20:57:50 My creativity has been so shot recently
20:58:18 <chiifu> im enjoying the conversation brainstorming, and i wrote earlier, so it's all good
20:59:20 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham lol
21:00:21 So, thinking Klipsch, as ex-CIA, had an encounter with an SCP or the aftermath of one, and refused to stop asking questions
21:00:58 <chiifu> i can definitely see it. CIA operation on some weird shit and her former team comes across that
21:01:11 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Foundation people in the CIA saw her potential and gave her the standard offer: "Either work for us, or you forget that all ever happened"
21:01:51 <chiifu> yup
21:02:00 i like it
21:02:34 how about the others, how did they come into contact with the Foundation. gotta think that up
21:02:35 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Big K has always been smart, not like, genius level, but smarter than your average bear
21:03:00 Big K I'm thinking encountered some odd information during her research into dreams in college
21:03:21 <chiifu> something like classified information on the web she wasn't supposed to see?
21:03:29 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Possibly
21:03:57 <chiifu> or maybe tie it into some weird historical records with dreams
21:04:07 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Or just some seemingly meaningless thing that set her on a path researching dreams, until she hit a point where nobody would fund her anymore
21:04:35 <chiifu> i think i like that option better ^
21:04:40 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham She kept going from organization to organization, trying to find anyone to listen to this crazy girl insisting that dreams can affect the real world
21:05:06 Foundation gets wind of it and does the whole "not only are you right, you're more right than you ever imagined" thing
21:05:23 <chiifu> ah, i can see that
21:05:45 come at her door unexpectedly and a brief interview
21:06:00 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Yup
21:06:11 Now, what about Normal….
21:06:39 <chiifu> i think the idea of having him being able to remember dreams so vividly *could* call for an anomalous effect
21:06:56 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Or maybe something they *thought* was anomalous?
21:07:03 <chiifu> foundation catches wind, and while they can't ascertain whether or not it's truly anomalous or just a trauma link, they recruit him
21:07:08 yeah, something like that
21:07:25 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Hm
21:08:41 I like to imagine Klipsch hand-picked him for the team
21:09:09 Because having people try to remember the dreams was really a setback for how much the department could get done
21:09:30 Maybe they even studied Normal's brain to help develop the OViMs!
21:09:42 <chiifu> i vibe with that
21:09:59 quick thought: for krueger, what if you tie it to one of your old articles? the nightmare doorway
21:10:59 of course, i can see why you'd decline, old first articles are like that
21:11:12 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Oh, 3608? Nah, that doesn't really fit, because that's not a dream
21:11:21 It's a whole reality that happens to be alive
21:11:26 <chiifu> ah, fair point
21:12:15 for krueger, we've already got it; ex-con that was recruited by the foundation
21:12:57 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Thinking he was D-Class at first, but was involved in an earlier oneiric incident and was one of the only ones to come out unscathed
21:13:18 <chiifu> maybe testing purposes
21:13:25 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Klipsch, again, saw the potential and recruited him
21:13:30 <chiifu> seeing as how krueger has to deal with nightmares
21:13:47 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham His was the least…..accepted addition to the group, at first, especially from Big K
21:14:02 <chiifu> yup, i vibe with that
21:14:38 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Thinking perhaps Big K had some bad experience with a criminal in her past, so she doesn't trust him
21:14:48 Thinking perhaps Big K had some bad experience with a criminal in her past, so she doesn't trust him
21:14:56 Why are my messages not sending
21:15:01 <chiifu> i got them
21:15:04 irccloud being dumb
21:15:45 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham There we go, had to reload
21:15:57 <chiifu> iclassic
21:16:31 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham I gotta go take care of some dishes, be back in a bit
21:16:35 <chiifu> np
21:17:17 i’ll go ahead and log this so far
21:17:24 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham good idea
21:17:40 <chiifu> collaborative effort on a new division?
21:17:50 <DrFullham> Doctor Fullham Perhaps
21:18:00 Let's stick with the article for now lol
21:18:04 Not put the cart before the horse
21:18:10 <chiifu> yup
21:18:42 alright, let me log this… lengthy conversation