Team of the Oinks

Welcome to the hub for the Team of the Oinks.

If you're on this, it means two things. If you are Pedagon or/and Marcelles_Raynes, welcome in the hub for your Review Flight. Below, you will find some rules of thumb and pieces of advice about what I expect to you as my officers. If you are none of these users, I don't know how you find this, but there's no big project here, you will find it elsewhere.

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Pieces of advice.

- The most important : be excellent to the people you crit. You already know that, it's in the rules, but it's always good to remind that to people. Of course, telling people what you think about their articles can be harsh, but don't forget that there's multiple ways to tell one thing. "I don't think your article can work on the site because I feel that this, this and that make it a disservice" is a good way to tell. "Your article is complete garbage with no redeeming quality on it, it's horrible" is not.

- Don't. Be. An. Elitist. I cannot stress this enough, because for all the time I've spent on site, I've seen many, too many comments made by people who act and talk often in a really condescending way about what is an SCP and what is not an SCP and they say that like if it was an absolute and objective truth. But they're wrong. The truth is that articles on the Wiki can take many forms and can be about everything and everyone, as long as it's well-written. Remember that.

- You are not obligated to provide a big wall of text as a review. If you feel that the idea is not "formed" enough ou if you feel that you don't have much to say, don't force yourself, select just the points that are for you the most important, say it in the review and leave it at that, as long as you tell precisely what works or not in the idea.

- If you see someone in the Ideas Forum who have a thread but who don't have the required template, let Staff handle it. If you leave a critique and the OP respond poorly to that (by "poorly", I mean "they are agressive towards you or something like that"), stay calm and contact a Staff (it can be me, but contact any Staff).

- Me and you two, we are from different timezones and generally, when you're awake, I could be asleep (and the opposite, also). So, if you send me a message on Discord and I don't respond immediately, it's maybe because I'm asleep or busy (but I generally try to respond when I can).

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For Pedagon :

Goals required :

- September 15th/September 22nd : 2 idea critiques per day.
- September 22nd/September 31th : 2 idea critiques per day + 3 draft critiques for all the week.

Template of first contact :

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Hey!

[[*user Pedagon]] here from the Team of the Oinks! I'm here to be your critter!!

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Welcome to the site! I'm looking forward to hearing back from you! :)

-Brian

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Hey!

[[*user Pedagon]] here from the Team of the Oinks! I'm here to be your critter!!

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Welcome to the site! I'm looking forward to hearing back from you! :)

-Brian

Place for linking your crits :

Week 1 Crits

September 15th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13730686/the-perfect-town#post-4775477 <- Really looking forward to where this one goes when they respond :)
September 15th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13729437/disability-reels#post-4775766 <- Super cool narrative with a strange object. Let’s see some growth!

September 16th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13736372/the-flower-in-the-field-seeking-greenlights#post-4776352 <- Really cool narrative with some clutter to clean up. They seem to have deleted their account right before I was about to reconnect for greenlight :( super disappointing
September 16th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13736128/scp-5259-first-scp#post-4776361 <- Agree with Marcelles! Has definite potential but needs some growth in narrative and origin.

September 17th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13739236/the-corner-of-your-eye#post-4777017 <- Not much here to critique so I will revisit it when the author responds and provides more information.
September 17th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13704357/playing-god-with-a-model-town#post-4777025 <- Love the narrative but the journey to it needs work. Will check back in on it later to see if they explain more.

September 18th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13741173/welcome-to-the-in-game-experience#post-4777623 <- Looks like a new author wanting to geek out about video games. Not super confident on it but whatever. Any idea can be a good idea!
September 18th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13739721/seeking-greenlights-scp-xxxx-native-american-spirit#post-4777635 <- Probably not a great critique for a critter but what I think the author needs. Made me consider requesting or putting together a guide on dealing with stereotypes and writing about people respectfully.

September 19th: http://www.scpwiki.com/forum/t-13745853/first-scp-idea-seeking-feedback#post-4778578 <- A cliche idea that could make any seasoned SCP reader/writer groan. But could also be done well if the narrative gets fleshed out a bit! The fact that they wrote a draft before greenlight makes me worry but who knows. Maybe this will be the chosen one to do the immortal d-class right and not just rip off confinement.
September 19th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13741490/spontaneous-space-rock#post-4777729 <- SCIENCE! My favourite topic to read about! I think this could be a cool idea but it needs more thought into how they would make this an effective article. Can’t wait to see how they respond to the critiques provided!

September 20th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13746700/first-scp-idea-seeking-feedback#post-4779342 <- I really like the concept! I love simple scips! Just needs more in the proposal.
September 20th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13736633/giant-hypnotic-toads#post-4779350 <- alright idea. Needs more writing information before a full critique of the idea can be given accurately.

September 21st: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13749438/scp-j#post-4779873 <- extremely underdeveloped -j article with a simple premise. Don’t see much future fore it based on the proposal that was written to be completely honest.
September 21st: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13750187/seeking-greenlight-intwo#post-4779892 <- anomaly is alright. Nothing special but not especially bad either. The intended narrative worries me as well as the described elements of conprocs and d-class testing.

Personal opinion about Week 1 : Well, let me be clear, this is an excellent work you've done here with all your crits! The whole "roses & thorns" gimmick is pretty funny and you take the time to say everything that, for you, work and doesn't work, which is an essential quality for a critter. There would be many other good things to say, but I will summarize them in one sentence : if you continue to do in Week 2 what you made in Week 1, you will surely be an excellent critter and you will use your greenlighting privileges wisely, I'm sure of that. Excellent work!

Place for linking your crits :

Y'know how it works. ^^

September 22nd: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13754171/viral-applications#post-4780476 <- I’m really excited for this one and I honestly think it is worthy of a greenlight already. However, no ideas are perfect right from the beginning so I want to see how they address some of my questions to see if they have a plan for writing their article and to see how they respond to feedback. Chances are that I will be recommending this one for a greenlight tomorrow when they respond.

September 23rd: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13744715/monster-house#post-4779344 <- Monster house has been in development for a few months now and I have been helping the author grow it in an ongoing basis. They are mainly dealing with confidence issues and framing their article in a way that shows what they are actually internally going through. This is going to be an ongoing critique that will hopefully help the author get it out someday.
September 23rd: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13756814/scp-xxxx:the-traveler-seeking-green-lights#post-4781098 <- Simple proposal. Asked for more information and some explanation of how they will be doing what they have proposed effectively.

September 24th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13758084/seeking-greenlight-god-of-the-gaps#post-4781816
September 24th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13751514/pustula-flowers-seeking-greenlight#post-4781834

September 25th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13757282/broken-masquerade-tale-seeking-feedback#post-4782233 <- I'm honestly ready to greenlight this one. They responded to my feedback really well and everything they added sounds like it would fit really well on the wiki
September 25th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13761172/2-revolvers-with-ethics#post-4782295 <- User is trying to start a series of tales with this fist SCP article and the proposal shows that the article is just a means to kick off their tale. I think it's a great idea but they need to treat this article like a standalone piece first.

September 26th: http://www.scpwiki.com/forum/t-13764310/the-quantum-quarter#post-4783024 <- Quantum mechanics and the same effect I used in my first article (although I don’t think I pulled in bias because mine wasn’t very popular). Did alright talking about the science but really lacks in narrative.
September 26th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13763943/seeking-greenlights-regenerating-ice-cream-cone#post-4783030 <- Regenerating ice cream is something I’ve been writing myself. The proposal reads like a series 1 article and needs more discussion around the narrative.
Interesting day with two articles that I have written myself. Was weird giving critique on my own ideas lol

September 27th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13763814/scp-idea:hornet-horror#post-4783667 <- Not very much for a proposal so offered the author some questions to consider and update their proposal. Will check back in tomorrow to see if they have developed!
September 27th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13766652/looking-for-greenlights-on-an-old-idea-of-mine#post-4783679 <- Another bare proposal that I gave some questions to think about. Will check back in tomorrow to see if they have developed!
These last two days have really made me reflect on what kinds of ideas I prefer to critique. I think I prefer giving feedback on the underdeveloped ideas the most and find critique on ideas I am more familiar with to be difficult to avoid my bias in. It’s interesting!

September 28th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13766888/seeking-greenlight-on-this-tale-idea-of-mine#post-4784197 <- Summoned by pm to give this one a look. Still a lot to go on this one but it looks like the author is receptive to feedback!
September 28th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13762234/a-mirror-s-reflection#post-4784211 <- Summoned by pm to give this one a look. Still a lot to go on this one but it looks like the author is receptive to feedback! Today just seems to be the day for these!

September 29th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13770372/the-trench-raider#post-4784955 <- Monster that kills people. Gave some advice for making a better quality proposal so we will see where they take it!
September 29th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13769794/medic#post-4784964 <- A tale about being an MD at the Foundation. LOVE the idea! Not much detail of how it will be executed. Will check in on it later!

September 30th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13774494/quitting-smoke#post-4785905 <- I see a lot of potential in this idea! Could make for a cool article with some development!
September 30th: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13774449/the-label-maker#post-4785912 <- Really empty idea. Gave the author some advice for writing an effective proposal and how to think through an idea fully.

October 1st: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13769086/a-creature-whose-flute-puts-people-s-souls-in-inanimate-obje#post-4786788 <- Really cool idea but needs some work on fleshing it out into something that can tell a story.
October 1st: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13768822/elephant-friend#post-4786790 <- Cute elephant friend seeking advice and suggestions. Asked for more information that could help critters give ideas and brainstorm.
October 1st: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13768142/the-double-decree#post-4786794 <- Cool idea without a dive into how the article will be written. If done thoughtfully this could be a great idea. If done without thought it could be a horrible time for the author.
October 1st: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13776685/looking-for-a-greenlight-on-my-idea-new-scp-author#post-4786791 <- Barely a critique but whatever. Might as well toss it in.
For the final day I took a look at 4 smaller articles to try to help them flesh their ideas out and attract more attention. I love this early stage of an idea and the conversation that flows out!

Draft critique 1: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13768016/echoes-between-now-and-then#post-4784135
Draft critique 2: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13681089/nobody-goi-format:frostbite#post-4784170
Draft critique 3: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13725511/where-s-waldo#post-4784191

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For Marcelles_Raynes :

Goals required :

- September 15th/September 22nd : 2 idea critiques per day.
- September 22nd/September 31th : 2 idea critiques per day + 3 draft critiques for all the week.

Place for linking your crits :

Week 1 Crits

September 15: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13717818/defragmenting-the-broken-god-seeking-greenlight#post-4775522 | This seems pretty rad honestly.

September 15: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13730736/scp-5025-rewrite-seeking-greenlight#post-4775609 | Noting that I was pseudo summoned for this, but the idea, on the whole, was not very put together IMO.

September 15: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13730119/man-of-his-own-imagination#post-4775634 | From a Facebook conversation I had with the author, who asked for critique.

September 16: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13736095/first-known-instance-how-many-are-there#post-4776292 | Not much to say on this one. There really isn't much narrative here.

September 16: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13736128/scp-5259-first-scp#post-4776301 | I actually kind of like this thing, if not for the somewhat cliche origin story. This has potential, I think.

September 17: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13735350/the-weak-rifle#post-4776339

September 17: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13739531/dream-fighting-sheep#post-4777072 | Despite the fact that I totally forgot to link this yesterday, I actually really like this idea!

September 18: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13741941/something-to-keep-him-at-bay-seeking-greenlights-and-critiqu#post-4777722 | I am honestly not a fan of this in its current state. The object has no correlation to the story, and the story itself is very barebones/not there at all.

September 18: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13741490/spontaneous-space-rock#post-4777729 | Actually kind of looking forward to this. It's space and exploration, two of my favourite things!

September 19: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13744715/monster-house#post-4778577 | A very undeveloped idea IMO, but it might have potential should the characters be interesting enough.

September 19: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13736315/the-regional-hq-of-the-gru-p-seeking-greenlight#post-4778591| Were I not currently participating in the Flight, I would have greenlit this. This is very interesting to me.

September 20: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13747998/scp:coronavirus#post-4779249 | A COVID-19 skip, which, for personal reasons, I am not a fan of. I find this insensitive and in poor taste.

September 20" http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13744446/a-dream-machine#post-4779257 | Very similar to 1498, but I think it can be spun enough away from that article to live on its own!

September 21: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13750888/scp-source-code#post-4779851 | This is a good idea, but severely underdeveloped I think.

September 21: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13750187/seeking-greenlight-intwo#post-4779859 | Really not feeling this one. It's overpowered to the point of being boring imo.

Personal opinion about Week 1 : OK, OK, it was pretty good. Your crits are often straight to the point and they can be often really short, but because of their "straight-to-the-point" nature, they never seem vague or useless and that's a really good point. If I can suggest to you one thing, it's to take the time more often for giving more paths of reflexion for the authors (you do that on some threads, but not on every thread you crit). Do that and you will do really good, you already do good for this week! ^^

Place for linking your crits :

September 23: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13755923/scp-idea:loki#post-4781005 | An interesting take on a comedic scp. Not really my taste, but I had a look anyway.
September 23: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13756509/seeking-crit-and-greenlight-shower-thoughts#post-4780978 | Also a pretty neat idea.
September 24: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13700110/scp-idea:shakespeare-s-writing-quill-v-2#post-4781690 | Actually greenlit this because it just seemed like a super interesting take on history, and I am an absolute sucker for those kinds of articles. The author seems to have a good grasp on what to make of this, and I would like to see what they do.
September 24: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13759314/seeking-green-light-matter-eater-bug#post-4781707 | Not much to say about this, considering it lacks a central narrative. I tried to point them in the right direction though.
September 25: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13761306/reality-s-8-ball#post-4782231 | This was somewhat underdeveloped, but I still gave my word on it.
September 25: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13761369/scp-idea:the-suit-that-bites-back-seeking-greenlight#post-4782238
September 25: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13761049/poison-apples#post-4782242 | El draft boi 1/3
September 26: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13763943/seeking-greenlights-regenerating-ice-cream-cone#post-4782946 | A series 1 style article.
September 26: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13763441/inflatable-alligators-seeking-greenlight#post-4782953 | Another short article for today.
September 27: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13766142/an-equilibrium-that-must-be-kept#post-4783590 | A short one, given the time. I think it's pretty neat, but it needs some narrative depth to it I think.
September 27: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13764996/seeking-greenlights-the-traveller#post-4783593
September 28: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13767827/multiverse-transciever#post-4784045
Spetember 28: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13767651/info-extracting-scorpions#post-4784055
September 29: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13772024/seeking-greenlight-nostalgic-brain-poppy-rewritten#post-4784843
September 29: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13745288/we-ll-make-great-pets#post-4784864 | Cerastes actually greenlit this, and I was tempted to as well honestly.
September 30: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13762234/a-mirror-s-reflection
September 30: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13774012/the-day-the-news-stopped#post-4785711
October 1: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13770090/the-petty-grudge-ghost#post-4786085 | Draft 2/3
October 1: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-13768016/echoes-between-now-and-then#post-4786176 | Draft 3/3

Y'know how it works. ^^