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Commander: 
Agent Avocado
Operative Sandbox Hub Czar: 
Golden506
Specialist: 
Dr Alias Fakename
Specialist: 
Superblobby
Designated Radio Channel: #teamharbinger
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"We are the Z-Team"
- Sandbox Hub Czar Gold
NOTICE:
Okay, it turns out a some of the stuff I proposed earlier isn't going to work. Again, check the central idea tab for details.
- The New Idea
- The New Idea-ARC
- Coordination
- Deadline
- The old idea
- And it all draws to a close...
- peanut butter scp, take 1
- GoI format - MCD
- GoI format - nutrition facts
- Tale - #JustEldritchSnackThings
- Peanut Butter Pandemonium
So… we need to have some kind of central idea, unfortunately. That central idea takes the place of our K-class. So heres a few examples:
FR-Class Exposure Scenario
In which the world of the anomalous is unveiled to the public.
This already exists, it’s called a Broken Masquerade Scenario - Blobby
E2-Class Environmental Emergency Scenario
In which earth is no longer fit for human life.
CA-Class Extraterrestrial Doom Scenario
In which the world is shattered by forces far beyond our reach.
RA-Class Religious Apocalypse Scenario
In which the world is transformed into a new dark age.
Does anybody think this is a good idea? -Alias
It seems a bit generic, but we can probably pull it off if we execute the articles correctly. I like the idea of us being set back centuries, though i'd stay away from a mass amnestisization as it appears that another team is doing a similar thing. - Golden
These are just a few examples I came up with. Feel free to add to this if you have an idea.
Remember that your K-class has to fit all four different articles. From what I've gathered, the other teams have been going for quite… weird things, so be imaginative, I guess. -
So, if you're wondering how this is different from the "central idea" tab, its because I want this to be the idea and nothing else. No back and forth debating about the idea, just the idea laid out in whatever terms necessary. It will probably be updated often, and thats fine. Thats the point.
I want it to be this way because the "central idea" thing can get very cluttered very quickly, and it can be difficult to tell whats going on - and to be honest, its kind of a stupid way to do it anyway. I'll figure it out. -
The Idea:
- The universe runs off of certain values, eg the speed of light, but are mainly complex quantum mechanics. These values determine what ways atoms form in to molecules, how nuclear fusion works, etc.
- These values can change, in a local anomaly, a temporary quantum fuckup(as is the term) or one object can have different values than usual, mostly because one of the other options.
- We want to show this off in the form of multiple articles, like one GOI showcasing the object, etc.
- For more details and/or ranting, please check the last few entries of the central ideas tab.
Peanut Butter, SCP:
- The massive ever expanding glob of peanut butter is hollow, and inside the quantum mechanics are different. Certain values are changed, some are set to zero, some new ones emerge. This causes incredibly weird stuff to happen in there, things that we aren't capable of understanding. Like trying to comprehend a new color - you just cant do it. Your brain hasn't been designed to do it, it hasn't evolved for it.
Weird thing, GOI:
- A thing. It is exceptionally weird.
- Unique too, there is a small finite amount of it and it is physically impossible to make more of it, ever.
- This is because it was born of a quantum fuckup, which won't happen again in the way that created it in, well, longer than several heat deaths of the universe. It is, for all intents and purposes, the one and only weird thing, unless it was split in two (which it very well might of been)
- We aren't sure about exactly what it is yet.
Timezones:
For coordination purposes, it is important we know what time zones we are in. Please input your time zone, and if you are comfortable with it, your rough location. The timezone is the important part - the location is just for convenience. -
Agent Avocado: Pacific Time, CA
Golden506: Pacific Time Zone, California
Dr Alias Fakename: Mountain Time U.S. and Canada
Superblobby Eastern Standard Time, New Jersey
Events
We'll put any IRC meetings or whatever here so we all have some vague idea of whats going on. -
IRC Meeting
May 12th, 4:00 PM PST, 7:00 PM EST, 5:00 PM Mountain Time
Last meeting, to be honest, wasn't very successful. In my opinion, at least. We didn't get very far in terms of ideas, we spent half the time bickering among ourselves. I'll make sure I come better prepared for this one.
I encourage you to do the same. Write up ideas, drafts, theorize about stories, whatever. Also, if you didn't get around to finishing the Ideation guide, you should read it. I think it will be a great help. - Golden506
Notes:
Put anything here that you feel needs to be said regarding coordination efforts. -
(Sticking them here in a corner because they look shit due to formatting stuff
10:37 <DrAlias> A glob of peanut butter that infinitely expands
10:38 <AgentAvocado> lmao
10:38 <AgentAvocado> space-time inside the peanut butter does not exist, only at the smooth, tasty edges
10:39 <AgentAvocado> *peanut butter glob
10:39 <AgentAvocado> because it is so tasty, people and dogs really want to lick the peanut butter glob, but by doing so they risk destroying the space-time edge
10:39 <AgentAvocado> and exposing the end of space-time inside the glob to the rest of the universe
10:40 <AgentAvocado> hastening a PB-class "peanut butter jelly time" scenario
10:41 <DrAlias> I think we just found an idea
10:41 <AgentAvocado> ^
10:42 <DrAlias> and the punchline at the end of the tale, or rather the end of the universe is "Don't you understand, its peanut butter jelly time"
This was a little thing I drafted out of the blue. I don't think it would work too well as a standalone tale1, but maybe we could just stick it on the end of something.
I just… knew. I don't know how, I just did. I suppose I should of been panicking, everyone should of been panicking. But we didn't. We were calm.
It wasn't some sort of childlike bliss, I was still human. I suppose you could say I felt regret. Regret for so much time spent on things that, in retrospect, seemed uninportant. And I felt regret for what could of been. I had a future. We all did.
But really, what I felt was acceptance. It was over. No point crying about it now. It was time to move on to… whatever was next. I had 24 hours to pack my bags and say my goodbyes. I'm glad I had the chance to do that. Small mercy, I suppose.
I let my eyes wander the open horizon. Considering the circumstances, it looked strikingly normal. Our last day alive was a day like any other.
But then, a small green shoot began to grow from the ground, and in seconds a bright red lily lay before me. Another quickly followed. The clouds in the sky began to dissipate, and in minutes the world was transformed. Flowers of all shapes and sizes littered the ground, and the bright sun watched over it all. Earth's final gift to us.
I had a lot to do in the next 24 hours.
Item #: SCP-XXXX
Object Class: Apollyonut (temporary classification)
Special Containment Procedures: SCP-XXXX must be contained within an airtight room completely closed off from the rest of the world, as it will eventually expand beyond its containment. BUT FEAR NOT. The site itself also happens to be locked with an airtight seal, and the dome around that is as well. While a containment breach is inevitable, we hope that
Description:
SCP-XXXX is an irregularly shaped glob entirely covered with peanut butter (smooth, not chunky). SCP-XXXX's center of mass is 0.5 miles due west of Kenosha, WI, and its enclosed volume is growing at a rate of approximately 3 km3/day. As of 21/04/2019, its total enclosed volume was 3190 km3. The peanut butter layer is estimated to be 1.5 km thick on average.
The "interior" of SCP-XXXX is a space-time void; i.e. space and time do not exist in the "interior" of SCP-XXXX. The layer of peanut butter enclosing SCP-XXXX thus serves as both the physical and the temporal boundary of the real universe. It is unknown what will actually happen if the peanut butter enclosure is pierced at a point, exposing the remainder of reality to the spatiotemporal boundary; this hypothetical event has been designated a PBK-class "open jar" scenario.
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| Demand | High |
| Value | 560 GBP per oz, 10.000 GBP per jar (18 oz) |
| Availability | Established Supply Line |
| Identifier | Peanut Butter |
| Description | Portions of peanut butter harvested from the growing glob near Kenosha, WI, USA. |
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[[tab GoI format - nutrition facts]]
[NOTE: original rows for reference]
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 2½ universe (1056 g)
Servings Per Container 4
Amount Per Serving
Calories Calories from Fat
% Daily Value
Total Fat
Saturated Fat
Trans Fat
Polyunsaturated Fat
Monounsaturated Fat
Cholesterol
Sodium
Total Carbohydrate
Dietary Fiber
Sugars
Protein
Vitamin A Vitamin C
Calcium Iron
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 10^2000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
Yaldabaoth sipped on his soul-marble, bringing a ghostly wisp to each of 1000 suction-lips on his outstretched tentacle. By his account, the soul-marble was by far the most delicious drink served at the Well of Time. Yaldabaoth considered himself an amateur connoisseur of cafes, and among cafes the Well of Time has no equal. To consider a single drink at the Well of Time to be the most delicious is no small compliment, for the cafe has served up an infinite variety of refreshments across an infinite span of realities.
This was why Yaldabaoth had to put his tentacle-mind on the relaxing pleasure of a soul-marble and escape from the horror he had encountered earlier that eon. As a successful cafe can be a wildly profitable business, upstart cafes constantly flit into existence with the hope of capturing a niche clientele of repeat customers for infinite eternities. That eon, Yaldabaoth happened across one such cafe, Birthday Fish. Birthday Fish occupied a particularly tight stall in only a finite intersection of realities, but its lack of flashy advertisement, rundown exterior, and sense of hustle among the staff suggested to Yaldabaoth that this upstart cafe could be the real deal.
”We gotta go! It’s that damned jar of peanut butter!”
Doctor Sheffield screamed at Ezra Halsey, the Chief of Security. The short, portly Doctor waited anxiously as the Security Chief grabbed her helmet.
“Have you contacted the MTF yet?”
“Why do you think I got you?!”
They sprinted down the corridor, shutting the doors behind them as the tsunami of peanut butter stomped down the bulkheads. All the while a red blaring sirens screamed overhead. When the doctor reached the security barracks, seconds ahead of Chief Halsey. He fumbled, reaching for the radio and fiddling the frequency before speaking.
“This is Doctor Carlin Sheffield, I’m a uhhh, level three Researcher, and-and I’m with Security Chief Gemma Halsey. Fuck, I’m gonna be blunt, the peanut butter scip! It breached, a huge fucking tsunami of it is crushing all the bulkheads. The sites been locked down already. I guess this is our S.O.S.”
The Security Chief sank into a Barca Lounger. The Doctor was still in a panic, and the Chief remaining calm wasn’t helping.
Notice: Please put your entries (but not your name) in a collapsible - we only have a few of them and its already too long. - Golden506
This is the place to gather ideas about the main concept: Our end of the world scenario.
Now, I'm not too happy with the current idea about 'massive peanut butter thing that ends the world somehow', and not only because it seems ridiculous at face.
Part of the problem here is that we're supposed to be making a new kind of end of the world scenario - I think that's something that you might of forgotten.
How would peanutbutter end the world? By engulfing everyone and killing them? Thats just an anomaly getting out of control and ending all life on earth, which is just an XK-class. A new scenario should be something a little bit more general that can be applied to multiple anomalies, not just one. Having it limited to just one not only makes no sense, it inhibits our writing ability by forcing ourselves to stuff our ideas into the weird peanut butter based mold, and worsen them so.
Just something to think about, anyway. If you disagree, that's fine.
P.S. Sorry if I'm killing the fun a little bit here. I just want to write some decent articles. Like I said, if you want to go the jokier way here, thats fine.
No worries, definitely not killing any fun! I agree that figuring out the theme is important to doing solid writing, and solid writing is really the main goal anyway. Below is my take on this subject.
Before I heard about DrAlias' peanut butter scenario, I was thinking of a very general temporal-style K-class "finite horizon" scenario, where time literally _stops_ at a certain date, and beyond which there is simply nothing. The only ways for the universe to exist beyond the "end of time" would be (1) Groundhog Day-like time replay, or (2) "buying time" from some eldritch being in exchange for some sort of sacrifice. After DrAlias suggested the peanut butter theme, I tried to come up with a way to combine the two ideas, and this is what I came up with.
The "infinitely expanding peanut butter glob" idea actually fits perfectly with the idea of "literal end of time": basically, the peanut butter is a gooey layer surrounding the space-time boundary of the universe itself. I think this is unique compared to the common K-class scenarios (plain "end of the world", reality restructuring, reality failure, etc.) and is also general beyond just our peanut butter theme. While the current name of this scenario is still a bit joke-ish ("PBK-class 'open jar' scenario"), it is still a general and reusable K-class scenario (we might have to change the name from "PBK-class" to something else). Even the "open jar" nickname makes sense: normally, the universe is a "closed jar", but the existence of a space-time boundary in a finite volume turns the universe into an "open jar". Hope that makes sense.
Edit: As for why the PBK-class (or just PK-class) "open jar" scenario is not simply an XK-class scenario. Basically, suppose that the PK-class "finite horizon" end-of-time is on 12/21/2012 (Mayan doomsday). Then there is no such thing as a universe on the dates 12/22/2012 or later. Think about that. It's not like the "world ended" from the perspective of humans. It's like you're watching a movie, and it gets to the end, and that's it: the characters in the movie don't know that the movie ended, it just ended.
Edit 2: Also, the fact that the peanut butter glob is infinitely expanding is kind of a physical indicator that the universe is approaching its PK-class space-time boundary. To use the movie analogy again, imagine if characters in a movie were aware that some end-credits were being overlaid on top of the final moments of the film, but before the endcrawl. The peanut butter glob covering the space-time boundary is kind of like those pre-endcrawl credits.
I can kind of see where you're going here, but I still have my doubts.
For one, how does the foundation even know? To them its just a never expanding glob of peanutbutter. Also, how do you define 'Space-time-boundary'? You kinda just think of it as 'thing what make the universe go' but it needs to be a little more clearly defined here - to be honest, I have no idea what you're talking about there.I think I can figure something out if I have that definition. If its any good, then I say take the universe border thing and leave the peanut butter.
Okay, editing out my last thing and rewording it:
I think I might of interpreted that incorrectly. I think you can do it either way. If you didn't see my thing before now and don't know what I'm talking about, just ignore it.
Basically, there are two ways we can go about this. We can have it be one anomaly ending the world across multiple articles, or we can have each article detailing a different anomaly ending the world in similar ways. Personally, I think that the latter is the better idea that would make for better articles, because I'd rather not have our writing limited to a single anomaly.
Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
Would it be counted as end of the world if everybody became unable to die? Like an immortality virus.
That might be an interesting idea. Anarchy and death due to overpopulation…
Wait.
Oh, I might have an idea here.
Alright, so imagine a mass panic scenario - induced by the world finding out about the foundation. An FR-class end of the world scenario, Foundation Revealed.
The main issue there is that it probably wouldn't be the end of the world. The world would greatly change, but it would go on. Probably.Oh, and about the immortality, I think that would suffer from the same problem. There would be lots of death, but there would pretty much always be a few people around. To be honest, immortality would probably make the human civilization better, once you've culled the population a bit and enacted worldwide mandatory birth control.
I like your point that all of our SCPs/tales/GoI formats don't need to be for the same end-of-the-world anomaly/event, they just need to exhibit the same type of K-class scenario. So if anyone wants to write about peanut butter, that's totally fine and no one else needs to feel obligated to build on that subject, as long as it uses the K-class scenario we end up with. (Personally I'm still excited to write a GoI format about anomalous peanut butter :3)
The thing about the "mass panic scenario" is that it's essentially the same as the Broken Masquerade scenario/canon. Technically, Broken Masquerade is not a K-class scenario, but it's still an established idea in the Foundation-verse.
One way I've been trying to think about how to come up with a K-class scenario is to try to make it as different from the current common K-class scenarios as possible:
- XK-class "end of the world" scenario: the world is simply destroyed, e.g. a rogue planet collides with and totally annihilates Earth
- ZK-class "reality failure" scenario: reality simply ceases to be, e.g. due to overuse of Scranton Reality Anchors' reality bending effects
- CK-class "reality restructuring" scenario: reality exists but has irreversibly changed, e.g. aliens invade and take over Earth, eliminating all humans and the Foundation
I feel like a lot of possible K-class scenarios can be categorized as subclasses of CK-class, ZK-class, or XK-class. What is something that falls definitely outside the existing K-class scenarios?
So, the common K-class scenarios above are all about the end of the real world, based on some specific change to reality.
What if there were a K-class scenario about the end of an "imaginary" world? For example: the end of dreams, the end of thoughts, the end of feelings, the end of concepts, etc.
More concrete examples:
- Imagine that the idea of "turn left" or "outside" simply vanished from sentient/sapient thought; what would that do to humanity/the Foundation?
- Or, imagine that the number 100 simply vanished from existence. You could still line up 100 x $1 dollar bills, but it would be impossible to count to exactly $100 because the number 100 itself ceased to exist.
Oooh, that gives me an idea…
So basically, there are certain mechanics that the universe kind of runs off of - the most commonly known of such is the speed of light. But that isn't the only one. Its pretty technical, and I'm no expert in the field, but let me try and spell it out:
Basically, there is a bunch of complicated quantum mechanics at work with quarks and shit(like I said, not an expert. I can't really do much research because I'm sitting in bed with a laptop at 1 am :p) and they can more or less be defined as value's. These values are literally the foundation of the universe, in that everything is built off of them, and changing them could cause untold chaos. The reasons certain subatomic particles form together to form atoms? Those values. The reasons the atoms form together into molecules? Those values. The reasons nuclear fusion works are those values, the reason radioactivity is a thing is those values. Even things that simply seem to be immovable to us, like the fact that a circle has a consistent radius and not a square can be explained by those values.
And those values can be changed.
You might think that what I'm talking about is a CK-class event, but it really isn't, in my opinion. Take a look at how CK's are usually portrayed here. Something fucks up, things are different, sometimes you get it back to normal, whatever. But they tend to make some kind of sense, often restoring it to the same universe values as before but with that bit in particular a little different.
I think this is a little bit different. We might be taking a similar base idea, but we'll be interpreting it in a very different way. Think small areas - possibly made of peanut butter - where certain rules no longer apply, or new ones have been added, or where one rule affects another and that does a whole other bunch of shit. Think of it like a glitch in the matrix, the code.
Actually, thats another very good metaphor, the code of the universe. A naturally occurring temporal anomaly might be the result of a tiny glitch in the code of the universe. A man-made anomaly might be someone hacking in to the code and changing something, probably through some other glitch.
You know, you could probably explain like all the anomalies here with that. Can you imagine what a tale that might make? The final reveal? You could have an article showcasing one of those temporal anomalies, that'd be the peanut butter one, you could have a MC&D GOI format showcases a device that could literally change the code of the universe, the values. You might have a tale about the orientation of a member of foundation into what the hell is going on here.
There are a lot of similarities to the CK class scenario, but I think we can pull it off. Originality helps something like this, but if its slightly similar to the CK I think we can make up for it.
Ranting over.
Your idea is in fact quite close to a real philosophical and physics idea called the anthrophic principle. It's a way of answering the question, "why is the world the way it is?" The anthropic principle's answer is, "'things are the way they are because that's what it takes for humans to be around."
Now there two SCP-001 proposals with K-class scenarios based on similar ideas, but they don't directly touch a Foundationverse version of the anthropic principle:
- Roget's proposal "Keter Duty": there is a core set of Keter SCPs that contain each other in loops, and breaking the loops is like changing the anomalous constants of "reality", i.e. what's anomalous vs what's not.
- S. Andrew Swann's proposal "The Database": the meta canon: a bunch of horror fiction writers on a site called scp-wiki.net determine the way things are.
I'd say those two are required reading before we do anything, but in general I like the idea of exploring the anthropic principle in the Foundation's reality. I'd vote for it to be our K-class idea. Now all we need is a name… α-class (alpha class)?
Also there is a statistical idea that I think is similar in spirit called the doomsday argument (there's also an xkcd page about it; search for the section titled "Things get weird"). Maybe there is a way to tie in both ideas, dunno.
Edit: So I just had a bit of a mischievous idea. The real-life anthropic principle is usually invoked to explain "our" universe's reality. In contrast we could also come up with a fictional anthropic principle to explain the Foundation universe's reality. Now instead, imagine a "reverse-meta" anthropic principle: "Our" universe's reality is the way it is in order for a fictional SCP Foundation universe to exist. Then the way the K-class scenario works is: if the SCP Foundation fictional universe were to change by "too much", that would also kick in a change to "our" universe's reality. The act of writing on the SCP wiki could itself change the writers' reality.
Ohhhhhh… I have a concrete K-class scenario related to the idea of the anthropic principle.
First, required background reading: Roko's basilisk. The scenario I'm thinking of is kind of a hybrid b/w Roko's basilisk and the "reverse-meta" anthropic principle I mentioned earlier.
Now, for the actual scenario. Imagine that, in the distant future in "our" real-life universe, humanity inevitably creates an all-powerful AI/Matrix-like thing, that is able to simulate reality and even to simulate sentient/sapient beings based on their stored memories. (Maybe we're already simulations inside this AI/matrix.) Now also imagine that this all-powerful future AI/matrix is a really big fan of the articles on the old SCP wiki. So whatever we write about in our present time SCP wiki, including about fictional K-class scenarios and peanut butter gone wrong, one day, the inevitable, all-powerful AI/matrix will re-make simulated reality into, basically, a fanfic of the SCP Foundation universe. Therefore, if we write a SCP about, say, a glitch in the Foundation's universe, then eventually, the future AI/matrix will turn the SCP-about-a-glitch into an actual real-life glitch in our own reality that might actually crash the matrix and at the same time delete all the simulated people inside it.
… What have we done???
Edit: I think I can seriously turn what I just wrote into an SCP-001 proposal. The contest does not forbid writing a 001 proposal, and we can also write more than one SCP, but only the two top-rated SCPs per team will "count" for the contest. So anyone who wants to collab on this should.
Edit 2: Oh, and this scenario can co-exist with any other K-class scenario you think of. In fact, this scenario requires another K-class scenario in order for it work at its full effect. The "glitch-in-the-matrix" scenario Golden506 described is a good candidate.
Two things I want to clarify - when I say that everything rests on the foundation of these values, I'm not referring to the anthropic principle. I'm not saying that the values are designed to suit the universe's needs, I'm saying the universe is designed to suit the needs of the values.
To use the foundation analogy, changing the foundation, the values, may cause the house, the universe, to collapse. However, this does not mean that our current foundation setup is the only one that works. You can change the foundation and change the universe with it, its just that changing the universe will result in its initial collapse, before being built back up. Once you have your brand new universe, you can revert back to the old rules, but you'll have to destroy the universe again so you can go back to the old universe, or rather the old rules, as the new old universe won't be identical to the old old universe, it will just have the same rules, the old rules.
Wow that was confusing to write. Its probably even more confusing to read…
Also, when the fuck did we become philosophers?
Anyway, second thing; I don't want a matrix scenario as is actual universe simulation. When I say code of the universe, thats just a figure of speach. I think that a universe simulation article wouldn't succeed simply because it has probably been done many, many times before.
I think we mostly agree, it's just that this is very confusing to talk about.
> when I say that everything rests on the foundation of these values, I'm not referring to the anthropic principle. I'm not saying that the values are designed to suit the universe's needs, I'm saying the universe is designed to suit the needs of the values.
Actually the anthropic principle, as I interpret it, is in fact that "the universe is designed to suit the needs of the values". Based on whatever values we measure, that determines the universe b/c we have to exist to be able to measure those values. If those values could be changed (e.g. by anomalous means), the universe would also be changed.
> I don't want a matrix scenario as is actual universe simulation
I was using AI and "the matrix" as a concrete example, you can plug in a different future-omnipotent-thing as you see fit. But I strongly believe there is nothing overdone about the particular combination of:
- things happening in the fictional Foundation-verse in our present time;
- those things in (1) later affecting the future of our reality, up to causing a real end-of-the-world
Basically, fiction can and does affect our reality, possibly with world-ending impact.
Also to clarify, I was being a bit confusing with my word choice. I was using "glitch-in-the-matrix" in two sense:
- in-universe, it's a figure of speech for end-of-the-world in the fictional Foundation-verse
- out-of-universe, it's the end-of-the-world scenario in our own, real universe; it could be literal, or it could also just be a figure of speech
Edit: Here's a non-matrix example of the fiction-begets-our-own-end-of-the-world K-class scenario I'm talking about. Imagine in the not-too-distant future, Duke Nukem (figurative name) is President, is very trigger happy with the nuclear stockpile, and is also an avid reader of the SCP wiki. Now for some reason we're at the precipice of nuclear war, but if Duke Nukem is in a good mood he might try the diplomatic approach; if not, he'll launch the nukes. So then, what determines whether or not Duke Nukem is in a good mood on any particular day? Well, every morning he reads an article or two on the SCP wiki! If he likes them, he's in a good mood; if he doesn't, he's in a bad mood. In other words, fictional events in the Foundation-verse on the SCP wiki could lead to the end-of-the-world in our real world. That's the gist of the scenario I'm proposing.
Edit 2: Here's another even more mundane version of the same scenario. Suppose Homer Simpson (again, figurative name) works at an important nuclear power plant (using nuclear again b/c it's an easy example). One morning he reads the SCP wiki longer than he should b/c it's so immersive, which makes him an hour late to work. But when he finally gets to work, he's in such a rush because he's late that he forgets to perform a critical safety check. This cause the power plant to meltdown, and leads to a chain reaction of meltdowns that results in the end of human civilization.
Okay… I think I agree…? Uhhhhhhhhhhh…
Yeah, we have the same base sort of ideas, we're just sort of phrasing them in weird ways and generally making a mess of this - except for the part about the SCP universe(s?) affecting the real one. However, I think its gotten to the point where this form of communication where we have to wait an hour or two between exchanging ideas simply isn't feasible. I'm going to try and get everyone on #teamharbinger pretty soon, i'll use that handy coordination tab. I wanted to try and wait until everyone'd logged their timezones, but I'll just PM alias to come and check this out.
Speaking of PM, I think we should use that when we aren't on the IRC, simply for its notification system. I wanted to use the current system so that everyone could contribute, but I just don't think its feasible. Blobby and Alias don't seem too inclined to post here anyway.
Actually, how about we do the best of both worlds and post here but send a PM notification to whom it may concern? I think that would probably be the best option.
I don’t know where to put this, but I want to write a tale fleshing out the containment procedures, more or less how they put the peanut butter universe back into the jar.
How could this not be used to describe all anomalies though?
Thats kinda the idea. We might have a reveal in the end about how like 80% of the foundations shit was caused by this sort of stuff. We'll discuss this more in IRC.
Are we still doing peanut butter as the scp article?
To be honest, I don't know. We never reached much of a consensus on the IRC. It might be better to err on the side of caution and go for either the general idea or a different individual article.
Hey.
So the contest so far has been going… not great. Its been three weeks since the contest started and we've accomplished next to nothing. We have a half formed very vague idea and a couple bits of text of ideas for each article. Thats it. Three weeks of work.
At the current pace, the contest will be over by the time we've managed to agree on an idea. The main issue here is cooperation. We just can't meet often enough and we just can't all agree on something.
This isn't something I can fix. We will never be able to meet often enough - we are humans with lives outside the foundation - and people sometimes disagree about things, and I sure can't change human nature. But I can fix how we go about writing and planning our articles. Here's what I'm thinking:
I want to get rid of the central idea. Not the current central idea, but the idea of the central idea itself(does that make any kind of sense…?). Basically, I want to make this contest more individual, therefore alleviating the above issues. The articles don't necessarily have to be related at all, they can be completely different, its up to the author. There is no central idea, no one code that we all follow.
We will still be cooperating to an extent, IRC meetings will be scheduled and authors will discuss things, but in a different way. A good way to think about it is this: We've been collabing on one big article up until now, all pitching in ideas and such, but from now on we'll each be writing our own articles and critiquing each others2. I think this is the best way to go about it, and the way these contests were meant to be done in the first place.
So what do you think? Do you agree with what I've said, do these seem reasonable? Should we do it or not?
Oh, and just pointing out that if anyone still wants to use the ideas that we already have thats fine. Like I said, we're abolishing the central idea, not the contents of the central idea.
With a heavy heart, I agree with golden. So far, we have accomplished next to nothing and that isn't going to work out very well. We need to have more of a free form idea I feel.
One extra bit of clarification I want to point out:
After taking another look at the doomsday contest, I am 99% sure that we have to make one new K class. That means that all of our articles do have to follow that one thing.
However, for all the reasons above in my earlier collapsible, I want to limit the cooperation required as much as possible, so I want to have the K class be no more than a sentence or two, and very open to interpretation. Sorry for any confusion.
Do you guys think doing a format screw is a good idea?
Also, I don't think it has to end all life, just end life as we know it
I've been assigned to write a tale(i think) so I'll just make this a placeholder for ideas. I think brainstorming will go on in IRC, this'll just be a bit of a repository.
oh boy
So you're doing a GOI and maybe a tale to go with it.
I am currently writing a tale about a D class tasked with rescuing, I’m thinking this feat could help with the containment procedures.
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