Per 
This is to serve as a "hub" for transcripts from each Site Criticism Team meeting, that of which take place within the #sitecritteam IRC chatroom. Transcripts will be discarded every three months to make room for new sets, meaning that there should only be six sets of transcripts at a time.
Participants: In order of appearance…
- RockTeethMothEyes (
RockTeethMothEyes)
- Gee0765 (
gee0765)
- DrAkimoto (
DrAkimoto)
- TheMightyMcB (
TheMightyMcB)
- Conwell (
Jacob Conwell)
- Zyn (
Zyn)
TL;DR: For those looking for the brief of it….
- Meetings
- Held every two weeks at 3PM EST. Will maintain this schedule for a few months and re-evaluate it's necessity.
- Intended to be an individual and team performance review.
- Transcripts will be available after each meeting (and as soon as I am finished with them).
- Performance
- Coldpost control, review quality, and policy enforcement are great and not under any question.
- Staff review output, however, is.
- Total positively rated articles between 12/8 — 12/21: 49 (includes SCPs, Tales, GoIs, and hubs)
- Total visible and obvious Site Crit responses in comments: "Like, five". (I had too many tabs open and lost the ones that had reviews)
- Current Goal: Three articles per week from each Site Crit staffer
- Also known as the bare minimum required quota as stated in the recruitment thread.
- Necessity of Staff Reviews
- At this time, it has been decided that staff reviews may not be totally necessary if…
- …there are existing comments that are reflective of the site audience's expectations.
- There are plenty of regular commenters that often times provide quality critique, thus making any staff review redundant.
- … the rating is decidedly positive,
- Sometimes, a good thing is just a good thing!
- …there are existing comments that are reflective of the site audience's expectations.
- At this time, it has been decided that staff reviews may not be totally necessary if…
- SCP-5000 Contest
- It's coming and will last for four weeks.
- Posting time opens January 14th.
- Posting time closes January 21st.
- Results are tallied February 8th.
- What we are expecting.
- High volume of new entries in a short time.
- Meaning a high work load.
- A lot of established authors posting.
- Meaning works that should meet site expectations.
- High volume of new entries in a short time.
- What is expected from our team
- Reviews where necessary.
- Reviews to match the quality of the reviewed work.
- It's coming and will last for four weeks.
- Recruiting
- A few of our staff are less active than they were when they joined, resulting in a higher work expectation from active staff.
- As a resolution, we are switching from a passive recruitment to an active recruitment
- Rather than wait for users to fill out an application from the recruitment thread (found here), we are encouraged to seek out worthy candidates ourselves.
- If you notice anyone that you feel would be a good addition to the Site Criticism Team, either bring it up with
SoullessSingularity or
- Alternatively, direct them to the application page.
- Young and Under 30
- For those unaware,
UraniumEmpire has a great tool designed for Young and Under 30.
- A listpages module that singles out the kind of articles that were both made recently and are performing under a +30 rating
- Read: Exactly the kind of article we look for
- A listpages module that singles out the kind of articles that were both made recently and are performing under a +30 rating
- Most site crit have a link on their author pages (RTME, McB, Gee, a few others), but you can also find it here.
- For those unaware,
The next meeting will be on January 11th, 2020.
Full IRC log: For those that watch people talk…
Bolded text = Current subject of conversation
Blue text = Anything noteworthy, really
Time is recorded in CST.
3:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Howdy everybody.
3:01 PM <Gee0765> ello
3:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Should probably send out a mass ping.
3:01 PM <DrAkimoto> Oy
3:01 PM <Gee0765> probably best, yeah
3:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB Conwell ManyMeats
3:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Looks like thats all I'm missing.
3:02 PM <&TheMightyMcB> heyo
3:02 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Just for everyone's comfort, I don't foresee this taking too long
3:02 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> At most, two hours.
3:03 PM <&Conwell> Kk
3:03 PM — ~RockTeethMothEyes scoots in chair
3:03 PM <Gee0765> cool, cause my phone probably has like three hours of battery left max
3:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Sick
3:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alright, let's go.
3:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> SO
3:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> This is the site criticism team meeting that you were all promised when you applied.
3:04 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Glad to have you all, though we are definitely missing some people, which is honestly fine
3:04 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Some of you or none of you might be asking "What? Meeting? No other teams do this? Except Seminars probably?"
3:05 PM <&TheMightyMcB> seminars definitely
3:05 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Well, since we have some big goals in mind for how this team operates, we feel that it is best to coordinate regularly as a team to check on everyone's work
3:05 PM <&Conwell> lol
3:06 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Especially because one of our team duties is literally "Ensure that every piece receives a staff review"
3:06 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Obviously, not every piece is going to be able to get covered.
3:06 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> But that's what it says on the tin.
3:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I believe this will be a good exercise to get us on track for regular team performance, as well as preparing for any incoming site events, like contests and the lie.
3:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> like*
3:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> So you probably have guessed that part of this is going to involve 5k
3:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Don't worry. We'll get there.
3:07 PM <Gee0765> yep
3:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> First off, I'd like to ask how often do y
3:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> frick
3:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> how often do y'all feel that we should have these meetings?
3:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Every two weeks seems to be a decent baseline to me
3:08 PM <Gee0765> I don't have any issues with that
3:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Though, seeing as we have… about five people present at this moment, that might be difficult to bring up
3:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> (Though it is the holidays)
3:09 PM <DrAkimoto> Fine by me aswell
3:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Cool. Two is all I needed for that confirmation to sink confidently in my head.
3:09 PM <&TheMightyMcB> twice a month would mean that missing a meeting is less critical
3:10 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB: mmhm. Good thinking.
3:10 PM <&Conwell> Every two weeks seems fine. I'd recommend we have transcripts available for members to get brought up to speed quickly.
3:10 PM <&Conwell> But that is not a deal breaker
3:10 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Conwell: Also good thinking.
3:10 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i could talk to croquembouche and taylor about getting tars in here
3:11 PM <&TheMightyMcB> currently he outputs logs to a seminar team specific page though
3:11 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> That would definitely be easier than an overall copypaste of chat logs, though I don't mind doing that either
3:12 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alright. Every two weeks sounds like it runs well with everyone. We'll do that for a few months and check back in on whether that's necessary.
3:12 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Also, is this time slot good for everyone? Specifically Gee0765, since I know it's getting late around where you are.
3:12 PM <Gee0765> It's only 9pm, don't worry about that
3:13 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Perfect.
3:13 PM <Gee0765> I won't be sleeping for another five hours really
3:13 PM — ~RockTeethMothEyes nods.
3:13 PM <&TheMightyMcB> 4est sounds like a good compromise, though perhaps its a bit early in the day for west coast users?
3:14 PM <DrAkimoto> 2 or 3 would be best for me
3:14 PM <DrAkimoto> At 5 I have like 10 things to do everyday, so depending on how long they take, a tad bit earlier might be better
3:14 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> DrAkimoto: I'll take that into consideration for next meeting.
3:14 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Transcripting will also make this a bit easier
3:15 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Conwell, I think you're our only west coaster. How's the time?
3:15 PM <&TheMightyMcB> im sure taylor wont mind if we borrow tars, ill run the idea by him later today
3:15 PM <&Conwell> RockTeethMothEyes: I'm actually EST for the foreseeable future.
3:15 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Oh! Excellent!
3:15 PM <&TheMightyMcB> oh dope
3:16 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> In that case, I don't have a problem pushing this back an hour for next meeting.
3:16 PM <&TheMightyMcB> welcome to brown sand and angry people with fun accents
3:16 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> We'll give that a go and see how it plays out.
3:16 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Every two weeks, 3pm EST.
3:17 PM <&TheMightyMcB> 3est on Saturdays works well for me yeah
3:17 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Perfect.
3:17 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Now, let's move on. I'd like to take a moment to talk about our overall performance concerning our team duties.
3:18 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'd like to preface this by saying that I know we are all multitasking in terms of not just our site work, but also in daily life.
3:18 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Some of us are busier than others. That's fine.
3:19 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I know Akimoto recently got picked up as Internet Outreach, for example.
3:19 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And the majority of us are on forum crit.
3:19 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Balance is tough.
3:20 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> So, according to the application that we signed up for, we are, at minimum, expected to do at least 3 on site critiques a wee
3:20 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> week*
3:20 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Which I don't think is unreasonable.
3:20 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> On top of that, we're expected to maintain our site criticism policies.
3:21 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I have a great amount of confidence that we are absolutely on top of our quality, copypastes, and keeping people in check regarding the rules
3:21 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> We are, however, very much lacking in critique output.
3:21 PM <Gee0765> Not gonna argue with you there.
3:22 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Does anyone have a guess of how many articles were posted to the site between December 8th and December 21st?
3:22 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Basically, the two weeks prior to this week
3:22 PM <&Conwell> 50
3:22 PM <&TheMightyMcB> gotta be over 25 that stayed up
3:23 PM <Gee0765> Tales included? If so, I'd go with around 25
3:23 PM <&TheMightyMcB> god knows how many that didnt
3:23 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Not taking into consideration coldposts and failed articles, Conwell is closest.
3:23 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Including hubs, we saw 49 articles.
3:24 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> That's including tales, gois, and skips
3:24 PM <&TheMightyMcB> guess that's holidays for ya
3:24 PM <&TheMightyMcB> usually its like 15 positive things a week
3:24 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> That's the usual number, yeah.
3:24 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Somewhere around there.
3:24 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> The last two weeks are CERTAINLY not emblematic of how it usually is
3:25 PM <&TheMightyMcB> RockTeethMothEyes: did you want zyn in on this
3:25 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB: I sent her the tell when I made the roo— oh right she isn't on autojoin
3:25 PM <&TheMightyMcB> yeahhh
3:25 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Could you pull her in, please? lol
3:26 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i can nab her right now yeah
3:26 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Anyhow, yeah, 50 articles is ridiculous and any normal month we'd probably see, like, thirty?
3:26 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> in two weeks?
3:26 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Maybe?
3:27 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Out of those 49 articles, only a handful have a visibile and obvious site crit review
3:27 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Maybe five. I don't know, I had a lot of tabs open when I checked.
3:27 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I definitely think we could do better.
3:28 PM <Gee0765> Totally. I know I could for sure
3:28 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Three a week is pretty achievable, and I'd like to at least get there before expectations start raising.
3:28 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Especially since we have about six active site critters.
3:29 PM → Zyn joined (yobylf.etuhc.egabr|g.ehtotnI#yobylf.etuhc.egabr|g.ehtotnI)
3:29 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Now, I will say that on some of those, a staff review might not totally be necessary
3:29 PM <Zyn> Hello
3:29 PM <Zyn> popping in just to lurk
3:29 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Heya, Zyn.
3:30 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> For example, there was some great crit on qntm's latest tale from the general site audience.
3:30 PM <Zyn> o/
3:30 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And that can be said about quite a few of them.
3:30 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> So I'd like to ask two questions here.
3:31 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Is there a time when we feel that a staff review isn't necessary, and when does that become clear?
3:31 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I think we can agree that a staff review is something for articles middling in rating and overall barren of comments.
3:31 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> But if someone is already leaving great crit, do we need to step in?
3:32 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i would say no
3:32 PM <Gee0765> For now, definitely no
3:32 PM <Gee0765> And I don't think it needs considering much further than that until our output is back up to 3/week
3:32 PM <&TheMightyMcB> irrespective of team size tbh, if i see that like peppersghost or ard has left a good comment on a thing, i'm not gonna review it unless i had strong feelings
3:33 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB: They are definitely frequent commenters and are consistent in their quality and insight.
3:33 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Both points are essentially what I'm thinking, too.
3:33 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i'd consider people like trutherford to also be in that club
3:34 PM <&TheMightyMcB> and rounderhouse as well
3:34 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Our output is already below our minimum, and there are some great non-staff reviewers doing some lifting for us.
3:34 PM <&Conwell> RockTeethMothEyes: I'd argue if an article already has ~ 3 crit comments of decent quality or a rating above ~+50 without many comments, its not really the teams concern.
3:35 PM <Gee0765> TRutherford's comments are great, yeah
3:35 PM <DrAkimoto> I agree
3:35 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Conwell: I won't argue that. That is basically well within site expectation.
3:35 PM <&TheMightyMcB> honestly i would argue that one really succinct crit would do it
3:36 PM <&Conwell> True
3:36 PM <&TheMightyMcB> like if one guy just like nailed the main issues
3:37 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> In that case, when approaching an article, keep an eye on the rating and comments. I trust everyone's judgment here to do what they feel is necessary.
3:37 PM <&TheMightyMcB> speaking of rating and comments
3:38 PM <&TheMightyMcB> mind if i interject real quick rtme?
3:38 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Absolutely. What's on your mind?
3:38 PM <&TheMightyMcB> my author page has a link on it to UraniumEmpire's little staff project that I think the whole team would find useful
3:39 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Ah, yes. UE's workbench is a gift.
3:39 PM <Gee0765> The young and under 30 one?
3:39 PM <&TheMightyMcB> its a series of listpages that single out exactly the kinds of articles that need our attention the most
3:39 PM <Gee0765> yeah I've got that too
3:39 PM <&TheMightyMcB> http://www.scp-wiki.net/uebench
3:39 PM <Secretary_Helen> TheMightyMcB: Young and Under 30 Reboot Workbench (Rating: +14. Written 94 days ago By: UraniumEmpire) - http://scp-wiki.net/uebench
3:39 PM <&TheMightyMcB> so for anybody that doesn't know about this
3:39 PM <&TheMightyMcB> its a gift
3:40 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i know i showed a few other staffers but i wanted to just put it out there again
3:40 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Understandable.
3:40 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> So, our main priority for the moment is to get our output back to minimum, 3 per week from each of us.
3:41 PM — Gee0765 nods
3:41 PM **<&Conwell> Agreed
3:41 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i think the biggest issue ive had wrt output is that i go back and forth between site and forum crit
3:42 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB: Yeah, that's the tough one.
3:42 PM <&TheMightyMcB> ill do a week of one heavy and a week of the other heavy
3:43 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Any other questions, complaints, or concerns before I move on to the big event?
3:43 PM <Zyn> just a note, I'll need to pop out in a few
3:43 PM <Zyn> I'm glad to know that this discussion is being hosted!
3:43 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Zyn: No worries. I'll probably transcript this later.
3:43 PM <Zyn> Thanks to everyone who helps out.
3:43 PM <Gee0765> None from me.
3:43 PM <Zyn> That would be wonderful
3:44 PM <&TheMightyMcB> none here either
3:44 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alright then!
3:44 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Onto the big one: 5k contest.
3:45 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Now, let's take a look at what we can expect.
3:45 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> As a frame of reference, we'll use the 4k contest.
3:45 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Who was around for that?
3:46 PM <&TheMightyMcB> me
3:46 PM <&Conwell> o/
3:46 PM <&TheMightyMcB> what was it, like 70 some odd entries?
3:46 PM <&Conwell> Yes.
3:46 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Contest page lists 76 or so by the very end of it
3:46 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Some of which didn't make it.
3:47 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> So I don't think it comes to a surprise that we'll be expecting a lot of new articles to be out by the time posting ends.
3:47 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I think on day one we had about eleven-ish entries?
3:47 PM <Gee0765> Posting is one week this time
3:47 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> That too
3:48 PM <Gee0765> So with that number of entries that'll be the average
3:48 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> This contest will not be going on for more than a month.
3:48 PM <&TheMightyMcB> posting being quicker though means the flood will be greater
3:48 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Also true.
3:48 PM <&TheMightyMcB> though i think the number of entries will be curtailed
3:49 PM <&TheMightyMcB> the time crunch will probably cut off a good number of entries
3:49 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> The workload is definitely going to be immense regardless of the posting window.
3:49 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> However, I will say that though there will be a lot, most of the previous entrants are likely going to be the upcoming entrants.
3:50 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> We'll be seeing established authors that we can trust to put out readable works.
3:51 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> The quality of the article already has high expectations, so I'm hoping that, if a staff review is something you want to add, the review will be able to match that quality.
3:51 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Or at least recognize it.
3:51 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Maybe that's a better word.
3:52 PM <Gee0765> I get what you mean either way
3:52 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Right, yes, good.
3:53 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Now, I know that a few of us are plannign to enter as well
3:53 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I don't think there is an issue to be had there.
3:54 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> There's quite a bit of time between posting open and result tallying.
3:54 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And we've established that not every article requires a review.
3:54 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> It just needs to have some sort of usable feedback.
3:55 PM <&TheMightyMcB> yeah staffers entering this contest will be a forum crit issue, not a site crit one
3:55 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Exactly.
3:56 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I think that more or less covers expectations? Unless any of you feel like I'm missing something here.
3:57 PM <Zyn> popping out now
3:57 PM <Zyn> laters!
3:57 PM ⇐ Zyn quit (yobylf.etuhc.egabr|g.ehtotnI#yobylf.etuhc.egabr|g.ehtotnI) Quit: CGI:IRC
3:58 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i have a question
3:58 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Sure.
3:58 PM <&TheMightyMcB> are we still recruiting
3:59 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Excellent question. Last I checked, we still had the site crit application stickied.
3:59 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> read: I checked last night.
3:59 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> also read: I was wrong
3:59 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> We never had it stickied.
3:59 PM <&TheMightyMcB> because this was a nearly dead team when we joined, and it got a little bit of life breathed into it when we nabbed aki, gee, tanhony, and mew
3:59 PM <&TheMightyMcB> and then we have since lost 2 of those essentially
4:00 PM <&TheMightyMcB> oh and tupac, another one we lost
4:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Did mew and tanhony drop?
4:00 PM <&Conwell> Yes. I believe we are still recruiting http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-10374070/site-crit-junior-staff-recruitment-applications-open#post-4161008
4:00 PM <Gee0765> nah, they're just barely active any more
4:00 PM <&Conwell> The issue here is that not many want to join.
4:01 PM <&TheMightyMcB> and i know rattles is having a tough time at home so his activity is spotty
4:02 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> rattles is on top of the copypaste stuff, so I'm thankful for that.
4:02 PM <&TheMightyMcB> really the folk who are here right now are the ones doing the reviewing
4:02 PM <&TheMightyMcB> and yes, rattles, gee, and aki are baller on the copypastes
4:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'd argue that roget is consistent in the review game as well.
4:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> But yeah, we're deffo short of reviewers.
4:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> which, again, not much compared to the behemoth that is forum crit
4:03 PM <&TheMightyMcB> also yes but Roget also was on a major hiatus until recently
4:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> a necessary behemoth
4:04 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Do we think that we should be doing more active recruitment?
4:04 PM <Gee0765> Possibly? I know I'm only here because of active recruitment.
4:05 PM <&TheMightyMcB> same
4:05 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Conwell: How would you feel if we came to you every so often with a site crit candidate for consideration?
4:05 PM <&TheMightyMcB> soulless pmd me in his usual manner lmao
4:05 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'm asking you because I forgot to bring Soulless in here (oops)
4:05 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> (and also because you are captain)
4:07 PM <&Conwell> RockTeethMothEyes: I'd be fine for that, though Soulless is usually the one to bring more on board.
4:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Either I or McB can bring it up to Soulless post meeting.
4:07 PM <&Conwell> If anything I could direct them to the application.
4:07 PM — ~RockTeethMothEyes nods.
4:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Its a good move, I think. Zyn does a lot of active recruitment for forum crit based on consistent pace and quality on the forums. It should be fine for us, too.
4:09 PM <&Conwell> Quite
4:09 PM <&TheMightyMcB> active recruitment offloads a lot of the responsibility off of the user too
4:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Mmhm.
4:09 PM <&TheMightyMcB> like applying for a thing is stressful and is work
4:10 PM <&TheMightyMcB> and also imposter syndrome is a thing
4:10 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> It sure fucking is
4:10 PM <&TheMightyMcB> im not sure i would have applied for this position, but when i was asked, I said yes
4:10 PM <&Conwell> Gotcha
4:10 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alright then. If we can, keep an eye out for any good fits to site crit. A few extra hands is a good thing.
4:11 PM <&TheMightyMcB> plus it feels good when somebody else reaches out to you for the work you've been doing
4:11 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Absolutely
4:11 PM <&TheMightyMcB> it felt great for forum crit and it felt great for here too
4:11 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> In that case, I've said effectively all I wanted to say here today. If anyone has any outstanding questions or concerns, let them be heard now.
4:12 PM <&Conwell> RockTeethMothEyes: I'm concerned with the initiative you are showing. First site crit, then the world! When will you be stopped?
4:12 PM <&Conwell> ;)
4:13 PM <&Conwell> In all seriousness, no further questions.
4:13 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Who knows! I might be stopped for the right price!
4:13 PM <DrAkimoto> Ill give you four squash and a goat to stop
4:13 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> shit that's a good deal
4:14 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> That seems to be it then. Next meeting will be January 11th, 3PM EST.
4:14 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Thank you all for your time, and have a wonderful rest of your day.
4:14 PM <DrAkimoto> Sounds good o7
4:14 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'll have a transcript out and set to the topic sometime… tomorrow probably
Participants: In order of appearance…
- RockTeethMothEyes (
- Gee0765 (
- Conwell (
- Soulless (
- TheMightyMcB (
- Tanhony (
Tanhony)
- ManyMeats (
ManyMeats)
TL;DR: For those with little time on their hands…
- Performance
- Primary site reviewers were gee0765 and RockTeethMothEyes
- Most articles had user reviews that the team felt were sufficient and did not warrant a staff review.
- Most of the art exchange works were commented on by DarkStuff
- Slow week due to imminent SCP-5000 Contest.
- Tale review focus is being taken on as a secondary long-term goal.
- Tales aren't SCPs, so they get less attention, leading to low rating and comment counts.
- i.e. DrMagnus's tale (http://www.scp-wiki.net/denton-and-mcdowell-recover-la-chupacabra-s-pinata-from-a-je posted on January 7th, 2020]) had been at +8 with one comment before I (RockTeeth) had reviewed it on the 9th.
- Tales aren't SCPs, so they get less attention, leading to low rating and comment counts.
- Meeting Notification
- I haven't been doing it.
- I'm going to start doing it.
- Site Criticism Team staff will be receiving both a .tell and a Wikidot PM two days prior to a scheduled meeting.
- Recruitment
- We're still recruiting! If you see anyone that stands out in the discussion threads of any posted articles, let Soulless or Conwell know.
- The SCP-5000 Contest may be a good place to look for possible new staff.
Francis Scalia and
MalyceGraves have been brought on! Welcome to the team!
- We're still recruiting! If you see anyone that stands out in the discussion threads of any posted articles, let Soulless or Conwell know.
- Butterfly Squad
- Consideration for our own version of the Forum Crit Specialists list.
- Wasn't talked about much here. May bring it up next meeting.
- Transcripts
- Tech Team is working on a tool for uploading documents accessible by team.
- Transcripts could be a possible inclusion into that system.
- Still a work in progress. Will update as necessary.
The next meeting will be on January 25th, 2020.
Full IRC Log: For those that want to feel like they are in the room…
Bolded text = Current subject of conversation, difficult to follow
Blue text = Anything noteworthy, really
Time is recorded in CST.
2:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I will preface this with "I have done pretty much nothing in the way of planning this meeting"
2:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> So let's jump right in.
2:00 PM <Gee0765> that's the best way to do it
2:00 PM <&Conwell> Take the plunge
2:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Soulless|Dreamin, TheMightyMcB, DrAkimoto, ManyMeats, Tanhony
2:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Good afternoon, probably!
2:02 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'm aware that Soulless is going to be running a bit late and they had some stuff they wanted to bring up. We'll get started talking about some of the things we spoke about last meet and go from there.
2:03 PM Soulless|Dreamin → &Soulless
2:03 PM <&Soulless> I am here now
2:03 PM <&TheMightyMcB> oh heyo perfect timing
2:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Also good!
2:04 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> So, pretty sure everyone is familiar that this is, in fact, the site criticism team meeting. It's an every-other-week discussion about how we're doing and things that are coming up within our scope.
2:04 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Last time, we established that, talked about our performance, necessity of staff reviews, the 5k contest, and recruitment to the team
2:06 PM **<~RockTeethMothEyes> For this meeting, we'll touch on overall performance to see where we need work, open up the discussion to anyone else that has thoughts that want to address, and I think that'll be about it since there hasn't been much else to talk about I think?
2:07 PM **<~RockTeethMothEyes> First things first, I did make a transcript of the last meeting and a summary of what was talked about. If you need clued in, it's in the topic.
2:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Now, the last 14 days (12/29-today) saw about 43 articles.
2:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> that number might seem a bit low, and that's because I didn't count the week previous to the 29th since a lot of it was art exchange.
2:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And a lot of what people had to say about those works was already touched on in the art exchange thread, or from DarkStuff.
2:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> DarkStuff did a lot of commenting, as did other users, which saved us a lot of work load.
2:09 PM <Gee0765> darkstuff was a godsend there
2:10 PM <&Conwell> Quite.
2:10 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> With that said, quite a bit of articles in the last 14 days seemed to have some substantial user feedback.
2:10 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> At least, that's what I noticed. I'm alright with being wrong.
2:11 PM <Gee0765> I'd agree there
2:11 PM <&Soulless> (If anyone has a s/o of users to reach out to for junior staff, I'm free to reach out to 'em
2:11 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> So, things have been a bit more relaxed, with Gee and I doing most of the staff reviews.
2:11 PM <&Soulless> (s/o == shoutout
2:12 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Soulless: Good to know. I don't have any one particular in mind at the moment, but I'll let you know if and when.
2:12 PM <&Conwell> Same.
2:13 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I spoke a bit with Nico not too long ago and he said that he would have liked to see more reviews with tales
2:13 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I think we can agree that tales don't get a ton of attention
2:14 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I personally did a staff review for Magnus's new Alchemy Department tale because it was at +8 and only the author post for comments
2:14 PM <Gee0765> I'd definitely be willing to review more tales
2:14 PM <Gee0765> Would get me to read them more too :P
2:14 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> For real.
2:15 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Normally, I'd pose that as the goal to hit before our next meeting.
2:15 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> buuuuuut
2:15 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> 5k posting starts next week
2:15 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> So that's not happening.
2:15 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Probably.
2:16 PM <Gee0765> It's a good long-term goal though
2:16 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> absolutely. Skips are definitely the popular stuff, but we shoudl also give some attention and well earned feedback to surviving tales
2:16 PM <&Conwell> Indeed.
2:16 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Same with GoI formats, though I don't know when the last goi was.
2:16 PM <Gee0765> A while ago.
2:17 PM <Gee0765> oh wait
2:17 PM <Gee0765> there was the deer college one recently, the one before that was more than a month ago
2:17 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Ah, yeah. The Eggplant Election thing.
2:18 PM <&Soulless> If I may be 0.02$- tale feedbacks are imo potentially useful in developing talent long term
2:18 PM <&Soulless> Unlikely to ever be a high high priority, but something good as a secondary goal
2:19 PM <&Soulless> (Also if I need to STFU lmk
2:19 PM <&TheMightyMcB> yeah goi formats seem to be dying off
2:19 PM <Gee0765> kinda sad
2:19 PM <&TheMightyMcB> which is unfortunate considering they had a bit of popularity this past year
2:20 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I agree, Soulless. The SCP format is designed to be restrictive, so it's not a clear marker for writing development like tales can be.
2:20 PM <&Conwell> You might see them return as new users discover the format, but much like tales they are generally a secondary media on the site in the eyes of the larger readership and fandom (and I saw that as someone who has mostly written tales)
2:21 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Anyhow, that's about all I had in terms of team performance. Anything else? Questions, complaints, concerns?
2:22 PM <&Conwell> Nothing on my end.
2:23 PM <&Soulless> I noticed we don't really have much juniors here
2:23 PM <&Soulless> How are we notifying them of upcoming meetings?
2:23 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> That has been an error on my part this time around.
2:24 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> McB and I sent the initial tells for the first meeting.
2:24 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> This meeting, I did not do that.
2:24 PM <&Soulless> ah ok, yeah fair meetings is hard worl
2:24 PM <&Soulless> work
2:24 PM <&TheMightyMcB> granted this has been scheduled since last meeting
2:24 PM <&TheMightyMcB> we did it at the end
2:24 PM <&Soulless> TheMightyMcB, IME people need repeated reminders running up to the meeting
2:24 PM <&TheMightyMcB> fair
2:25 PM <&Soulless> people will forget and not schedule things
2:25 PM <&TheMightyMcB> just was noting that fact
2:25 PM <&Soulless> I once scheduled a meeting 1 week ahead of time and like 2 people showed in admin-captains
2:25 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I can start running reminders two days before meetings from this point on.
2:25 PM <&Soulless> that might work ye
2:26 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Might do it through wikidot pm, see how that works.
2:26 PM <Gee0765> maybe both?
2:26 PM <&Soulless> mayeb both yes
2:26 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'll do both.
2:26 PM <&Soulless> Also, I am thinking of bringing on Francis and MalyceGraves
2:26 PM <&Soulless> Francis on tenuous "shape up t he attitude"
2:27 PM <&Soulless> Malyce outright
2:27 PM <&Soulless> Does anyone here like/dislike 'em
2:27 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Francis is Francis Scalia, yeah?
2:28 PM <&Soulless> Yep
2:28 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I've not interacted with Francis much, but I've seen them and Malyce frequently in #thecritters.
2:28 PM <&Conwell> Malyce has my full support. I like what I have seen from them.
2:28 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Malyce is a good noodle, for sure.
2:28 PM <Gee0765> Malyce is great and deserves it totally
2:28 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'll keep an eye on Francis so I can give a better opinion on them.
2:29 PM <Tanhony> argh, sorry im late, i had a misunderstanding with timezone difference
2:30 PM <&Soulless> Francis has distinct POV- he is approaching it with posture and expectation of fiction writing and fiction writing world
2:30 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Tanhony: No worries! Glad to see you here
2:30 PM <&Soulless> Where boasting and accomplishments and recognition and all that is the norm
2:30 PM <ManyMeats> Reporting, got stuck outside
2:30 PM <&Soulless> And using one's accomplishments to assert authority is pretty normal
2:30 PM <&TheMightyMcB> Soulless: while i understand that, they 100% need to adjust to this being a hobbyist site
2:30 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> ManyMeats: Stay safe out there. Can't imagine the weather is much better between either of us.
2:31 PM <&Soulless> TheMightyMcB, yep
2:31 PM <ManyMeats> it's distinctly miserable out
2:31 PM <Tanhony> im not really familiar with either of them, so can't comment
2:31 PM <Gee0765> It's miserable here too :(
2:32 PM <&TheMightyMcB> its humid and 20C here
2:32 PM <&TheMightyMcB> totally doesn't feel like january
2:32 PM <&Soulless> Well alrighty, I'll bring 'em on
2:32 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'll see if I can guide Francis a bit, or at least observe them from a distance to see if there is any improvement
2:32 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Or we can bring them on
2:33 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> That might be better than just me stalking like a vulture
2:33 PM <&Soulless> RockTeethMothEyes, :p Junior positions are the guiding process
2:33 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> right right right
2:33 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> It takes a village
2:34 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Was there any other shout outs people wanted to mention?
2:34 PM <Gee0765> none from me
2:35 PM <&TheMightyMcB> id love to see guys like trutherford and namelessmediocre join up
2:35 PM <&TheMightyMcB> but i remember both not wanting to be staff
2:35 PM <ManyMeats> truther has a lot of time crunch, I dont see that one working out
2:36 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Both of them are stellar reviewers and I would trust them on the team, but yeah, I don't think either of them have interest in staff.
2:36 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> in becoming staff*
2:36 PM <&Soulless> TheMightyMcB, I can ask them
2:36 PM <&Soulless> they can say no
2:36 PM <&Soulless> which is fine
2:36 PM <&Soulless> But I can still ask
2:36 PM <&TheMightyMcB> fair
2:37 PM <&TheMightyMcB> have we considered doing a small butterfly squad of our own?
2:37 PM <&TheMightyMcB> people who consistently leave good comments that we should all keep an eye on
2:38 PM <&Soulless> I think there were considerations, but what would we call ourselves?
2:38 PM <ManyMeats> obviously the Flutterby Squad
2:38 PM <ManyMeats> (no)
2:39 PM <&Soulless> Moth Gang? lol
2:39 PM <&Conwell> The League of Extraordinary Reviewers (ymmv)
2:40 PM <&TheMightyMcB> 🐛 is a Unicode character
2:40 PM <&TheMightyMcB> fuck
2:40 PM <&Soulless> Admittedly Conwell that's hilarious
2:40 PM <&Soulless> especially the YMMV part
2:40 PM <&TheMightyMcB> it swapped to an emoji
2:40 PM <Gee0765> caterpillar
2:40 PM <&TheMightyMcB> 🐛
2:40 PM <&TheMightyMcB> feck
2:40 PM <&TheMightyMcB> 🐛
2:40 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> gosh thats a cute emoji
2:40 PM <&TheMightyMcB> feck
2:40 PM <Gee0765> c a t e r p i l l a r
2:41 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i want the mf Unicode centipede to send
2:41 PM <Gee0765> my ass that's a centipede
2:41 PM <&TheMightyMcB> the Unicode version is
2:41 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I think we can use 5k to our advantage in seeking out new recruits
2:42 PM <&Soulless> 🦂 We can be scorpions
2:42 PM <&Conwell> Yeah, that will be a good proving ground.
2:42 PM <&TheMightyMcB> Soulless: im good with conwells name
2:42 PM <&Soulless> That sounds like a good idea
2:43 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Extraordinary Scorpions.
2:43 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Like good noodles, except chitinous.
2:44 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alright, I think that's about it, unless there is anything else from the captains.
2:44 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Or anyone else, really. Floor is open.
2:44 PM <&Soulless> 10/10 you folks are the bomb not com
2:45 PM <&TheMightyMcB> but what if i wanted to be the com not bomb?
2:45 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Ah, actually.
2:45 PM <&Soulless> that too
2:45 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Did we want to have a meeting next week or the regular two weeks from now?
2:45 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I think regular schedule will be fine, since posting for 5k ends that week
2:46 PM <&TheMightyMcB> 5k posting starts in 3 days but yeah the posting will likely need to be over before we could realistically expect people to start reading and critting with any regularity imo
2:47 PM <&Soulless> Oh
2:47 PM <&Soulless> I wanted to ask in general
2:47 PM <&Soulless> The tech team has been working on a tool to upload documents that are accessible by team
2:47 PM <&Soulless> Would we be interested in loading our transcripts?
2:48 PM <ManyMeats> That sounds like an easy yes to me
2:48 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I don't see any drawback to that. Would I be able to update it the same?
2:49 PM <&Soulless> I can ask
2:49 PM <&Soulless> It's kind of still a WIP, so I can ask what features can be available or not
2:49 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Sure.
2:49 PM <&TheMightyMcB> sounds good to me
2:50 PM <&Conwell> A+
2:50 PM <&Soulless> great I'll let 'em know we're interested
2:51 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alright. And I didn't hear any hard objections to scheduling, so next meeting will be January 25th, 2020 (1/25/2020) (25/1/2020) (2020/25/01)
2:51 PM <&Conwell> Hot damn.
2:51 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I never know what date format to use.
2:52 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Made sense to use all of them that I know
2:52 PM <&Conwell> All the above is always an option
2:52 PM <Tanhony> sounds good
2:52 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Thank you all for your participation! Have a great rest of your day!
2:52 PM <&Soulless> thanks for hostin
2:53 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> o7
2:53 PM <Gee0765> where is year day month
2:53 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Gee0765: frick
Participants: In order of appearance…
- MalyceGraves ([[
- RockTeethMothEyes (
- Soulless (
- Gee0765 (
- TheMightyMcB (
- Conwell (
- DrAkimoto (
- ManyMeats (
TL;DR: In case you don't have the time…
Full IRC Log: Because sometimes we want it all…
2:00 PM <MalyceGraves> Boom. I'm here
2:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I spaced out and read too much twitter
2:00 PM → &Soulless (promoted to admin, opped) joined
2:00 PM <&Soulless> ay I'm here
2:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Gee0765 Mew-ltiverse ManyMeats MalyceGraves Soulless Conwell Tanhony TheMightyMcB DrAkimoto
2:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> You are!
2:01 PM <Gee0765> RockTeethMothEyes: that's a mood
2:01 PM <&TheMightyMcB> eyo
2:01 PM <&Soulless> god I forgot the name of this place for a sexconfd
2:01 PM <&Conwell> o7
2:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'll give everybody a second and we'll get started
2:01 PM <DrAkimoto> Oy
2:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Soulless: That was me a day ago when I sent out the tell
2:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Like, I had the channel /right there/
2:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I could of just looked!
2:02 PM <MalyceGraves> Could have ^
2:02 PM — MalyceGraves grins
2:02 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> shucks
2:02 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I've been outed once again for my idiocy.
2:02 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Time for the plank
2:02 PM <&Conwell> Avast
2:02 PM <&TheMightyMcB> quick everyone point and laugh
2:02 PM <MalyceGraves> I mean, if we're planking folx for idiocy, I might as well join you
2:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> This is a family sized plank. Surely we can all fit on it
2:03 PM <&TheMightyMcB> you don't need this plank, we've got planks at home
2:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> lol
2:03 PM <MalyceGraves> Unrelated, I like the word "idiocy". It has a nice mouth feel when spoken
2:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Gosh, it sure does.
2:04 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I gave it five whole minutes. Let's get cracking.
2:04 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> AS THE CHANNEL NAME IMPLIES, this is a site crit team meeting and this is week three.
2:04 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Give it up for week three, hooray for week three.
2:04 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> (of doing meetings)
2:04 PM <&TheMightyMcB> woot
2:05 PM <Gee0765> woot
2:05 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> (technically, it's like… week six or something)
2:05 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> (math!)
2:05 PM — MalyceGraves throws confetti
2:05 PM <Gee0765> do weeks without site crit team meetings even count as weeks?
2:06 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Anyhow, we'll do our normal performance stuff, we'll talk a bit about 5k in that, and then I've got two things I wanted to bring up in particular. I'll then open things up for anything anyone else felt needed talking about.
2:06 PM <MalyceGraves> Nah, it's just a long 14 day week
2:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Gee0765: This is the most Business™ I do regularly besides an actual job, sooooooo I'm gonna say no.
2:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alright, let's talk about how we've been doing.
2:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Oh!
2:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I almost forgot
2:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> MalyceGraves, as we've discussed, is one of two new jstaffers!
2:08 PM <MalyceGraves> o7
2:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> You all knew this, but hey! It deserves acknowledging
2:08 PM <MalyceGraves> Well, now I gotta admit to knowing
2:08 PM <MalyceGraves> Damn.
2:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Francis also officially joined the team, if you haven't noticed, though they aren't here. We'll acknowledge them from afar for now.
2:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> (Francis being Francis Scalia on the site)
2:09 PM <MalyceGraves> I know francis has been experiencing some medical issues, that may be why he's not here
2:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Oh, I wasn't aware of that.
2:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Hope he's well.
2:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Right then, performance.
2:10 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> 5k happened and we're getting closer to the end of the voting phase and the official end of the contest.
2:10 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And I've been seeing a lot of everyone making comments.
2:10 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Gee0765, in particular, has been on fire with dropping site crit reviews.
2:10 PM <MalyceGraves> ^
2:10 PM <DrAkimoto> That's for sure
2:11 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Though everyone has been doing an amount of commenting without the header, and that's also worth noting.
2:11 PM — &Soulless applying
2:11 PM <&Soulless> *applaus
2:11 PM <&Soulless> applause
2:11 PM **<~RockTeethMothEyes> Comments in general have been stellar, even outside of the team.
2:11 PM <DrAkimoto> I will say for the most par–
2:12 PM <DrAkimoto> Yeah that
2:12 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> pew pew pew
2:12 PM <Gee0765> yeah, there's definitely a few users that have been leaving great comments
2:12 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> May need to go through some of the entries again to see if there was anyone we may want on the team
2:13 PM <&Soulless> Always up for folks to invite into the lair
2:13 PM <MalyceGraves> I think we had at least one application
2:13 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> One is good!
2:13 PM <MalyceGraves> I know Cyvstvi and plaidypus both expressed interest
2:13 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Ah, I've definitely see Cyvstvi around in #thecritters.
2:14 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And in #site19
2:14 PM <MalyceGraves> They've been hustlin' for sure
2:14 PM <ManyMeats> Hello, I've made it, I'll read up
2:14 PM <&Conwell> And then you shall read down
2:14 PM <Gee0765> and sideways
2:14 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Absolutely. Anyone have any objections to extending invitations to either Cyvstvi or plaidypus?
2:14 PM <ManyMeats> Left to right
2:15 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> ManyMeats: Glad to see you've made it!
2:15 PM <ManyMeats> Big endorsement for Cyvstvi
2:15 PM <&Conwell> I'd say go for it, RTME.
2:15 PM <DrAkimoto> Cyvstvi for sure
2:15 PM <MalyceGraves> I'm the same for Cyvstvi, a little less for plaidypus. I love the guy, but he's got a lot going on IRL
2:16 PM <DrAkimoto> Idk bout plaidy, they're cool but I've never seen their crit first hand
2:16 PM <&Soulless> Either someone contact them to contact me or I will reach out to 'em either wat whatever y'all want
2:16 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'm seconding that on plaidypus. I think if we see a bit more from them I'd be more confident.
2:16 PM <Gee0765> i agree
2:17 PM <&Soulless> (Minor note: We are having an admin-captain meeting tonight. If there are any pressing things I'll reach out to rockteeth who looks like they're organizing these things
2:17 PM <&Soulless> (unless someone else wants to be recieve of Big News
2:17 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I should be awake most of the day, so I'll be able to receive any Big News
2:18 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'll hit up Cyvstvi after the meeting then. We'll give plaidypus some time to cultivate.
2:18 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Cultivate sounds like the right word.
2:18 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Sure.
2:18 PM <MalyceGraves> I talk to plaidypus quite a bit. Want me to give him anything specific?
2:19 PM <DrAkimoto> Site crit stuff lol
2:19 PM <Gee0765> he just needs to be more active
2:19 PM <MalyceGraves> k
2:19 PM <Gee0765> in critting
2:19 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> ^
2:19 PM <MalyceGraves> I'll nudge him on that.
2:19 PM — ~RockTeethMothEyes nods.
2:20 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Anyhow, comments have been good, Malyce has been hitting the coldposts, I think that covers our bases.
2:21 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Performance all around is looking alright, even if they aren't tagged with the header.
2:21 PM <MalyceGraves> I think I caught all the 5k and most of the regular series/tales coldposts
2:21 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Now. About the header.
2:21 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> If you look in the topic, we've had a user complain about the use of the Site Crit Review title header.
2:22 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And I'd like to talk about that for a bit.
2:23 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> In short, ch00 is taking issue with the header for this reason
2:23 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> >** Not a fan of the “official site crit review” - honestly feels kind of patronizing. I think I’ve been here long enough that I don’t need help from the site crit team. In the future please don’t post these on any of my articles. (Like, I’d be fine with this exact comment if it had just come from you as a regular person and not as Site Crit Junior Staff - it’s that added layer of “this is an
2:23 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> official
2:23 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> >** thing” that annoys me) Thanks
2:24 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> So what I want to talk about is whether we should ditch the "site crit review" stuff that we add to those comments.
2:25 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Because, typically, if one user expresses this kind of thing, there is a chance others may as well.
2:25 PM <MalyceGraves> I'd like to mention that I gave HammerMaiden (previously FFB) a Site Crit, and she was quite pleased that it was "officially" recognized.
2:25 PM <&TheMightyMcB> im gonna be real here, ch00bakka is a pain in the cock
2:25 PM <&TheMightyMcB> excuse my french
2:25 PM <Gee0765> I've not got a particularly strong opinion either way, though I don't think ch00bakka is representative of the community
2:25 PM <&TheMightyMcB> they self-impose restrictions are their articles that no other author has done
2:25 PM <Gee0765> looking at their opinions on declasses etc
2:25 PM <&TheMightyMcB> *on
2:26 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> So it may just be a single user issue then.
2:26 PM <&Soulless> If I may
2:26 PM <&Conwell> I believe it is a single user issue.
2:26 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> You may.
2:26 PM <&TheMightyMcB> call me biased cause I came up with the things but yeah it hasn't been an issue for however many months
2:26 PM <&Soulless> There has been historical context of people wanting other people not to crit their work
2:28 PM <&Soulless> This is generally frowned upon as a site-wide acceptable policy, however, I think it may be fair to allow and review requests on the down-low within our team and decide what we want on a case by case- say, if a random newbie is like "don't crit me" we can say "dude, no", but if a regular is like "I'm too good for this", then whatever man> 2:28 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i agree with that
2:28 PM <Gee0765> Soulless: i think that's fine, yeah
2:29 PM <&TheMightyMcB> the butterfly squad has an unofficial list of people who are more trouble than they're worth
2:29 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i don't see much of an issue for us adding people like ch00bakka to our own version of said list
2:29 PM <DrAkimoto> Yeah that sounds about right
2:29 PM <ManyMeats> Seconded
2:29 PM <&Soulless> The only way this would work is if it was downlow/unofficial though, as I'm p sure anything remotely resembling a blacklist, even a requested blacklist, would cause tons of uproar
2:29 PM <&TheMightyMcB> oh god yeah
2:29 PM <&TheMightyMcB> yeah no actual lists
2:29 PM <&Conwell> Solid plan.
2:30 PM <Gee0765> yeah you don't write out this stuff
2:30 PM <&Conwell> Just don't spill the beans.
2:30 PM <&TheMightyMcB> ..we do have Helen's rem system
2:30 PM <&TheMightyMcB> if we wanna use that
2:30 PM <&Conwell> Ehhhh
2:30 PM <Gee0765> I just stick it in a text file on my phone
2:30 PM <&TheMightyMcB> but yeah i guess it's worth noting that if you cant remember a person, they probably weren't enough of a problem to be worth it
2:30 PM <Gee0765> I can't see it ever being massively extensive
2:30 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Yeah, for the longest time I kept a "Do Not Crit" list stickied on my desktop.
2:31 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i still remember a good chunk of people that i will not crit yeah, and ive never kept a list ever
2:31 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Which was fairly short and kept getting shorter because typically, if I had them on that list, they'd get banned eventually for being a dick.
2:32 PM <&Soulless> We
2:32 PM <MalyceGraves> I keep a list of all of my crits and I list them all with the usernames attached. If I get kickback, I generally remember
2:32 PM <&Soulless> actually can use that thing I mentioned
2:32 PM <&Soulless> with bluesoul's doc hosting
2:33 PM <&Soulless> We can't really copy the same functionality as gdocs in editing though
2:33 PM <&Soulless> So it'd be manual downloads/uploading/replace
2:33 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And this would just be an unofficial list of users that don't want crit, right?
2:33 PM <&Soulless> from what I understand yes
2:33 PM <&Soulless> where does zyn keep her unofficial list
2:33 PM <MalyceGraves> Obvs we couldn't title it "BLACKLIST BAD BAD
2:33 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I think she just has a text file or something.
2:34 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Or maybe she just remembers, I don't know.
2:34 PM <&Soulless> is it uploaded anywhere?
2:34 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I've never really thought to ask.
2:34 PM <&Soulless> I can ask her
2:35 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Sure. For now, maybe just keep a personal file of people that don't want site crit.
2:35 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> If you feel inclined to comment on ch00's stuff, just keep it away from any of the headers and stuff.
2:35 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> As for other users, adjust as fit.
2:36 PM <&Conwell> Can do
2:36 PM <&Soulless> she commented that she mostly uses non-disc records for her own list
2:36 PM <&Soulless> she == zyn
2:37 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Soulless: That sounds about right.
2:37 PM ⇐ Mew-ltiverse quit (esrevitl.wemehtfoneeuq|083273diu#esrevitl.wemehtfoneeuq|083273diu) Quit: Connection closed for inactivity
2:37 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Second thing I wanted to talk about, and this will probably be a lot shorter since we just had the above discussion, is someone getting snippy about the use of the coldpost copypaste.
2:38 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> The post in question can be found here: http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/forum/t-12939192/5000contestkg583#post-4473593
2:39 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'm noticing that the two complaints are mostly just feeling like our work is demeaning/patronizing.
2:39 PM <Gee0765> imo anyone who needs this copypasta isn't in a position to get snippy
2:39 PM <&TheMightyMcB> my feelings are pretty much the same yeah
2:39 PM <&Conwell> Yeah.
2:39 PM <DrAkimoto> Agreed
2:39 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Cool.
2:39 PM <Gee0765> while i don't like ch00bakka's approach, at least they have a successful article to back it up
2:40 PM <DrAkimoto> Yeah, people that know what they're going don't get that post
2:40 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I had a feeling it'd be met the same way. I'm going to assume that we don't need to take any action on it, then?
2:40 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> At least not now, anyway.
2:40 PM <MalyceGraves> At least the second human apologized
2:40 PM <MalyceGraves> For being snippy
2:40 PM <Gee0765> I don't think we need to, no
2:40 PM <DrAkimoto> Nay
2:40 PM <&TheMightyMcB> that guy says he's read all of the stuff given in the pasta, so it seems the main issue there was a lack of crit
2:41 PM <&TheMightyMcB> either he was given the go ahead from a shitcritter or he was just impatient
2:41 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alrighty then. Thanks for humoring me on that one.
2:41 PM <MalyceGraves> The impression I got was that the piece in question did not go through crit at all
2:41 PM <&TheMightyMcB> either way, i don't think it would be reasonable or necessary to offload the responsibility of investigating a person's commitment to the site beyond just reading their article
2:42 PM <&Soulless> IME One is a writeoff, two is a worry, three is an actionable concern
2:42 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Soulless: I'll keep that in mind.
2:42 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alright, well, that's essentially all I had planned for discussion. I'll leave the floor open to anyone else that had things they wanted to discuss.
2:43 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i think p much everybody exceeded their expectations these past weeks
2:43 PM <&Conwell> \o/
2:43 PM <&Soulless> I plan to remind captains tonight for making spotlights a thing again
2:43 PM <&Soulless> I know Gee075 got a shoutout here so Gee's goin on
2:44 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Good noodle Gee!
2:44 PM <&Conwell> Gee is the goodest of noodles
2:44 PM <Gee0765> there's only five or six 5k entries that don't have substantial feedback from either us or another user last I checked
2:44 PM <&TheMightyMcB> that being said, there are 72 friggin 5ks that stuck
2:44 PM — MalyceGraves throws confetti again
2:44 PM <&Soulless> If anyone else notices one of our juniors being a good let me know and they will also go on the board
2:44 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Can do, captain.
2:45 PM <Gee0765> might be a good idea to scope these ones out if anyone wants to leave a comment https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/OGnQGsAJ
2:45 PM <MalyceGraves> I know gerrymander got a lot of crit pre-posting
2:45 PM <MalyceGraves> they were in critters a lot
2:46 PM <Gee0765> then maybe rattles', comments are a little sparse on that
2:46 PM <MalyceGraves> I'd like to amend, I saw them in critters asking a bunch, but I'm not certain of their response
2:46 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> .au gerrymander
2:46 PM <Secretary_Helen> RockTeethMothEyes: GerrymanderBassist - has 4 pages. (3 SCP articles, 0 Tales, 0 GoI Formats, 1 others.) They have 386 net upvotes with a rounded average of 97. Their latest page is SCP-5000: Hard Landing at 8.
2:47 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> That probably warrants a comment, yeah.
2:48 PM <&TheMightyMcB> its one of those ones that was posted on the last day, wasn't it
2:48 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Looks like it, yes.
2:48 PM <MalyceGraves> I believe so
2:49 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I think the ones that were posted on final posting day in general are lacking in rating.
2:49 PM <Gee0765> yep
2:49 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i mean there were like 25 of them
2:49 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> This is true.
2:49 PM <Gee0765> I'm pretty sure everything not posted on the last day has substantial feedback in comments
2:50 PM <MalyceGraves> The dropoff in viewership was pretty steap
2:50 PM <MalyceGraves> steep ^
2:50 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alright. I think that's all we've got for today.
2:50 PM <&TheMightyMcB> yeah reading 10k word articles gets tiring
2:50 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Unless someone has a last minute thought, thank you all for your attendance.
2:51 PM <&TheMightyMcB> oh actually
2:51 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i did have a small thing
2:51 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB: Go for it.
2:51 PM <Gee0765> its his penis
2:51 PM <Gee0765> that's the small thing
2:51 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> :0
2:51 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> rude
2:51 PM <&TheMightyMcB> the coldpost copypasta has two quotes at the top that i think could do with minor changes
2:52 PM <&TheMightyMcB> at the top, it opens with the following:
2:52 PM <&TheMightyMcB> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/LmN9U5au/
2:52 PM <&TheMightyMcB> the vote justification line feels out of place on a coldpost where the author has not commented with something like: ‘y u downvote is my first scp?`
2:53 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I can see how that might be out of place.
2:53 PM <&TheMightyMcB> so when ive been using it, i cut out that final sentence, but i wanted to probe the room and see how yall felt about that
2:54 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I don’t think that's an issue.
2:54 PM <&Conwell> No problems here.
2:54 PM <Gee0765> fine with me
2:54 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> It's tailoring the response a bit, and that's hardly ever an issue.
2:54 PM <&TheMightyMcB> well so do we wanna alter the copypasta
2:54 PM <&TheMightyMcB> that's what im getting at
2:55 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Fine by me.
2:55 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i wasn't asking permission to change it personally, i meant in general
2:55 PM <Gee0765> I've just removed that last section from my copy of it
2:56 PM <&TheMightyMcB> it's been changed on my sandbox as well, i know a lot of you guys use that one
2:56 PM <Gee0765> I've just stolen all of yours to put somewhere more convenient :P
2:56 PM <&TheMightyMcB> lmao fair
2:56 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Stellar.
2:57 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'll have transcripts out for our absent users tomorrow. Some time.
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Full IRC Log: Because sometimes we want it all…
2:00 PM <&TheMightyMcB> RockTeethMothEyes: you wanna do the thing?
2:00 PM <&TheMightyMcB> the ‘.pingall`?
2:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I’m as ready as I'll ever be.
2:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> .pingall
2:00 PM <TARS> Invalid command: You're not authorised to do that
2:00 PM <&TheMightyMcB> HA
2:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> YOU MOTHERFUCKER
2:00 PM <Gee0765> lol
2:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I OWN THIS THING
2:00 PM <&TheMightyMcB> .pingall
2:00 PM <TARS> TARS, RockTeethMothEyes, AbsentmindedNihilist, TheMightyMcB, Secretary_Helen, Mew-ltiverse, DrAkimoto, Tanhony, Gee0765, MalyceGraves, ManyMeats
2:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> WHAT THE FUCK!?
2:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TARS I will have your brains
2:00 PM <Gee0765> RockTeethMothEyes: it's specific tars permission
2:00 PM <&TheMightyMcB> RockTeethMothEyes: it's whitelisted to seminars
2:01 PM — AbsentmindedNihilist cackles
2:01 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i just wanted to dunk
2:01 PM — ~RockTeethMothEyes grumbles
2:01 PM <Gee0765> only semen team have it
2:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> piece of trash
2:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Not you, mcb, tars
2:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I wouldn't badmouth y'all.
2:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I will badmouth the bots
2:01 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i would have accepted that lmao
2:01 PM <&TheMightyMcB> given i played your ass like a fiddle
2:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> You did.
2:01 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I've been thoroughly dunked
2:02 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> This is going to follow me across all timelines
2:02 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Also Hi Niles!
2:02 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Didn't see you there!
2:02 PM — MalyceGraves snickers
2:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'm giving it a few minutes in case there are some late joins.
2:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> How's everyone today?
2:03 PM <Gee0765> alright
2:03 PM — MalyceGraves grumbles
2:03 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> MalyceGraves: Me, too.
2:04 PM <MalyceGraves> I'm finally getting less sick, but I still fucking hate everything.
2:04 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> You have to be sick for that?
2:04 PM <MalyceGraves> No
2:04 PM <MalyceGraves> But at least right now I have an excuse that'll win sympathy
2:05 PM <MalyceGraves> I have no idea how I shat out two new things while coughing up bits of my lungs, but I fuckin' did.
2:05 PM — ~RockTeethMothEyes shrugs.
2:05 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Just the way of things.
2:06 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alright, impatience is kicking in.
2:06 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Let's do a meeting.
2:06 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> SO
2:06 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Thanks everyone for coming to today's meeting. I don't expect this to take long because I really don't have much of anything and both captains are gone
2:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> We'll mostly follow usual points of order.
2:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> For performance
2:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I've not kept a keen eye on the wiki lately, in all honestly.
2:07 PM <MalyceGraves> mood
2:08 PM <&TheMightyMcB> team has been hella on top of coldposts
2:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Which means I don't know what everyone's been doing and I haven't done anything myself
2:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB: Thats what I figured
2:08 PM <&TheMightyMcB> which is most of what we've gotten recently regarding new works
2:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> We were kind of in that contest lull.
2:08 PM <Gee0765> yeah
2:08 PM <&TheMightyMcB> thanks markiplier
2:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Where things are still getting posted but nothing is worth the time
2:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> (a few things were worth the time)
2:08 PM <Gee0765> i was checking earlier today, and every new post has some sort of comment about the content
2:08 PM <Gee0765> with the exception of maybe like, two tales?
2:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> So, big thankies to everyone thats been handling the coldposts.
2:09 PM <DrAkimoto> Yeah I've noticed that we've been getting a lot of non site crit comments that aren't absolute shite takes
2:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Markiplier, thanks for the signal boost.
2:09 PM <MalyceGraves> I've done a fair amount of pre-posting crit, which I know has nothing to do with my actual job, but… eh
2:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> MalyceGraves: Absolutely fine.
2:09 PM <MalyceGraves> I've been sick AF most of the past period
2:09 PM <Gee0765> MalyceGraves: that's probably more important at the moment too
2:10 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Honestly, yeah, Forum Crit needed the back up
2:10 PM <Gee0765> because of markiplier effect
2:10 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And still kinda does.
2:10 PM <MalyceGraves> I've been keeping an eye on Critters, 'cause that's what I've had the energy for
2:10 PM <&TheMightyMcB> yeah i was deffo more doing draft and idea crit recently
2:10 PM <Gee0765> now i don't need to read people's 5k novels I have more time for forum Crit
2:10 PM <&TheMightyMcB> since mainsite stuff was slow and im burned out on long ass articles from 5k lmao
2:11 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> This week was not a good time for the forums and we have the Forum Crit team and Zyn's Herculean strength
2:11 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> to thank
2:11 PM <Gee0765> TheMightyMcB: mood
2:11 PM <MalyceGraves> Zyn is incredible
2:11 PM <&TheMightyMcB> .gis Obama awarding himself
2:11 PM <Secretary_Helen> TheMightyMcB: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/030/329/cover1.jpg - Obama Awards Obama a Medal | Know Your Meme
2:11 PM <&TheMightyMcB> this is rtme right now
2:11 PM <&TheMightyMcB> ;D
2:11 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB: I only picked up threads once each two weeks
2:11 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Although, I did 14 threads on Thursday night.
2:12 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> … maybe I am congratualting myself.
2:12 PM <&TheMightyMcB> that was what i was referencing lmao
2:12 PM <Gee0765> im back to doing forum stuff again
2:12 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i saw that shit
2:12 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> As my coworker says: I AM A MACHINE. MACHINES DON'T GET TIRED.
2:12 PM — ~RockTeethMothEyes is tired.
2:12 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> ANYWAY.
2:12 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Thank you thank you thank you to our coldpost attenders and our forum critters.
2:13 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> 5k is over and we can resume normal business.
2:13 PM <MalyceGraves> Hey, I wanna give a shout out to Mew
2:13 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> At least until the next contest
2:13 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> MalyceGraves: You may give this shoutout
2:13 PM <MalyceGraves> She's been rockin' in #critters
2:13 PM <MalyceGraves> *they
2:13 PM <MalyceGraves> My bad.
2:13 PM <Gee0765> pasta time, goin afk
2:14 PM <MalyceGraves> I've seen them show exemplary patience with several problem people
2:14 PM <MalyceGraves> and given really solid crit
2:14 PM — ~RockTeethMothEyes nods
2:14 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Mew-ltiverse: You're doing good work out there. It's good to see you back and going.
2:15 PM <MalyceGraves> Also, 'cause they're in here, Grats to Tanhony for the W
2:15 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Oh, yeah! Congrats, Tanhony.
2:16 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> As you all have noticed, we've opened up Series 6, and have already seen early posts into that.
2:16 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I expect that will continue for a short while as everyone grabs the open real estates
2:16 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Stay vigilant, keep calm and copypasta on.
2:17 PM — MalyceGraves polishes their "Um, NO" stick
2:17 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> lol
2:17 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Now, you may have also seen that UraniumEmpire posted… /the thing/
2:17 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> .s underrated
2:17 PM <Secretary_Helen> RockTeethMothEyes: Did you mean : Underread and Underrated February 2020, Underread and Underrated, ?
2:18 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> .sm 1
2:18 PM <Secretary_Helen> RockTeethMothEyes: Underread and Underrated February 2020 (Rating: +12. Written 7 days ago By: UraniumEmpire) - http://scp-wiki.net/uau22020
2:18 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> This is the new efforts from Uranium to revitalize Young and Under 30.
2:18 PM <MalyceGraves> The table is gone
2:18 PM <Gee0765> pasta time was very quick
2:18 PM — MalyceGraves sadfaces
2:18 PM <Gee0765> im back
2:19 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> .sm 2
2:19 PM <Secretary_Helen> RockTeethMothEyes: Underread and Underrated (Rating: +111. Written 2 years ago By: psul) - http://scp-wiki.net/young-and-under-30
2:19 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> MalyceGraves: Table is here
2:19 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Because this was a thing that psul did three years ago
2:20 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Which lead to me being very confused about the rating and comments when I looked at it this morning
2:20 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> led*
2:21 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And looking at the comments, I really like the first thing psul says in the discussion
2:21 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> >** A quick suggestion for those helping with the "Young and under 30" project - if you're reviewing an article for the project, please title your post to refer to the project, and call for others to review as well. I hadn't realised that people had put several articles up for review until I looked at the second tab again, because the forum posts didn't refer to the project.
2:21 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> >** And I'd suggest that we don't have more than one article under review at a time (around one article every 2-3 days) - I'd like this project to focus as much of the attention of the "Recent Posts" crowd on a single article as possible, otherwise it won't have as clear an effect on votes and feedback as everyone would like.
2:21 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I think we can adapt some of what he says here.
2:23 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> It makes sense to me that we give attention to what Uranium posts up for review on the page.
2:23 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Like, collectively.
2:23 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Also, I think Uranium would be open to taking suggestions for what to pull focus onto for each month
2:24 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Any thoughts regarding YAU30?
2:26 PM <&TheMightyMcB> RockTeethMothEyes: how often is UE changing the recs?
2:26 PM <&TheMightyMcB> monthly?
2:26 PM <MalyceGraves> I put it on my staff page so I can start following up on it more conveniently.
2:26 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB: I'm pretty certain it's monthly
2:27 PM <MalyceGraves> The CoTBG thing has been up for a while, I thought
2:27 PM <&TheMightyMcB> hm so im not sure what we can do with the monthly pages as a team
2:27 PM <&TheMightyMcB> but the OG posted by psul could still be very helpful to us
2:27 PM <DrAkimoto> Other than make sure we review the monthly prompts and such, I agree
2:27 PM <&TheMightyMcB> seeing as it has those listpages that i borrowed from UE's workbench all that time ago
2:28 PM → Zyn joined (yobylf.etuhc.egabr|g.ehtotnI#yobylf.etuhc.egabr|g.ehtotnI)
2:28 PM <Zyn> sorry, totally missed the invitation
2:28 PM <Zyn> will sit and lurk
2:28 PM <&TheMightyMcB> marpa
2:29 PM <Zyn> marpa
2:29 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> DrAkimoto: I think that would fall into normal site crit processes, since they are newer articles and easier to spot.
2:29 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Which is great. We should be recognizing new stuff.
2:30 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Though, focusing on totally new stuff as they come out doesn't fulfill the purpose of YAU30, if I'm understanding correctly.
2:30 PM <&TheMightyMcB> the YAU30 list i think is more important for us as site critters than stalking .lc
2:30 PM <&TheMightyMcB> because those middling pieces are the ones that really need the crit
2:31 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Yes, that.
2:31 PM <MalyceGraves> The totally new stuff gets a lot of attention in several areas, I think the slightly older stuff would probably benefit more from our review. HOWEVER, critting the older stuff probably has less of a beneficial effect, as it'll get fewer eyes on
2:32 PM <Gee0765> also
2:32 PM <Gee0765> a lot of lc does end up being the mediocre stuff
2:32 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i mean yeah but that's just by merit of volume
2:32 PM <&TheMightyMcB> we get such a stupid number of submissions a week
2:33 PM <&TheMightyMcB> of course the majority will see deletion
2:33 PM <Gee0765> so I'd probably say lc and checking that are equally important
2:33 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Did scpper ever post a year in review for 2019?
2:33 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i'm more speaking of the Ahtohallan's of the wiki
2:33 PM <Gee0765> both have advantages and disadvantages
2:33 PM <&TheMightyMcB> the stuff that sits at less than +10
2:33 PM <Gee0765> TheMightyMcB: seventeen tabs
2:34 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> 17 tabs???
2:34 PM <&TheMightyMcB> Gee0765: .lc is integral for you specifically, I will grant
2:34 PM <&TheMightyMcB> given your sheer volume of coldpost pasta
2:34 PM <Gee0765> RockTeethMothEyes: seventeen tabs
2:34 PM — ~RockTeethMothEyes wipes sweat off face
2:34 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> that's… that's a lot
2:34 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> of tabs
2:35 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB: Do you think it would make sense to organize a way to distribute YAU30 reviews?
2:35 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> to site critters?
2:36 PM <Gee0765> some sort of organised system could work
2:37 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'm just not sure what that system would look like/behave like
2:37 PM <Gee0765> mmm
2:38 PM <Gee0765> because you don't want to make it too restrictive either
2:38 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Right.
2:39 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> What I'm thinking, is maybe pull one of each format and bring it up during meetings
2:39 PM <Mew-ltiverse> Sorry for the late reply, but thank you very much :)
2:39 PM <Mew-ltiverse> So what’s going on now
2:39 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> It's a slow go, but it will guarantee at least three articles being looked at every two weeks
2:39 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> In addition to the monthly articles from UE.
2:40 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Mew-ltiverse: Talking about Young and Under 30's revitalization as Underread and Underrated and what that means for us.
2:40 PM <Mew-ltiverse> Alrighty
2:41 PM <&TheMightyMcB> RockTeethMothEyes: im not sure codifying reviews like this would help
2:41 PM <&TheMightyMcB> forum crit is adamant about letting reviewers choose what they review
2:41 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Right. We should be doing the same.
2:41 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i think this is an important part of not burning ourselves out
2:42 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Do we refocus our regular workload to YAU30, then?
2:42 PM <Gee0765> maybe not fully refocus
2:42 PM <Gee0765> just keep it in mind a lot more than we do currently
2:43 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alright. Would anyone oppose to me proposing at one of our 3 reviews a week being a dedicated YAU30?
2:43 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> remove dedicated from that sentence
2:43 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> that was a dumb word
2:43 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> that escaped my head
2:44 PM <Gee0765> hmm
2:44 PM <Gee0765> not sure if i like, /oppose/ it
2:45 PM <Gee0765> but i do wonder if making it something specific like that is the best way to go about it
2:45 PM <Mew-ltiverse> I’d be fine with that; I have a few articles in YAY30 tho
2:45 PM <Gee0765> yay! 30!
2:45 PM <Mew-ltiverse> Oops
2:45 PM <Mew-ltiverse> Lol
2:46 PM — ~RockTeethMothEyes is almost 30 and is not yay! about it.
2:46 PM <MalyceGraves> Is there a way to implement bot assistance in this without a bunch of extra work?
2:46 PM <MalyceGraves> Like, something that would scrape the under whatnots and eliminate stuff already with a Site Crit header in the discussions?
2:47 PM <MalyceGraves> I don't know how difficult that'd be or if it'd even be overly useful
2:47 PM <MalyceGraves> Just an idea
2:47 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I feel like that's something that could be accomplished with SCUTTLE, but I'm also not sure what that'd take
2:49 PM <MalyceGraves> I know very little about bot functions, I am not at all a coder
2:49 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Yeah, same.
2:50 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Let's sit on YAU30 for a bit. We'll readdress it next meeting. Sound good to everyone?
2:50 PM <DrAkimoto> Sounds good
2:51 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alrighty then.
2:51 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> In that case, the only other thing that I have is a recommendation.
2:51 PM <AbsentmindedNihilist> oh jeez i forgot this meeting was happening
2:52 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Welcome back, Niles.
2:52 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i think just utilizing it as a resource more would be helpful
2:52 PM <&TheMightyMcB> just like as a general note
2:52 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i'm apprehensive about mandates
2:52 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB: Probably our best course of action, if I'm being honest.
2:52 PM <&TheMightyMcB> frankly, the 2-3 a week mandate isn't holding up very well either
2:53 PM <&TheMightyMcB> that's asking very different things depending on how busy you are as a staffer
2:53 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Right.
2:53 PM <&TheMightyMcB> like for a person only on site crit 3 a week is a cakewalk
2:53 PM <&TheMightyMcB> but for someone like me or you, who are on like 4 other teams, it's a bit more of a stretch
2:54 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Mmhm.
2:54 PM <&TheMightyMcB> like do we expect soulless to do 2-3 a week? the captain of harassment, disc member, admin, chatmin, etc
2:55 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> lol no
2:55 PM <&TheMightyMcB> like that's not a reasonable standard for a person that busy
2:55 PM <Gee0765> also like
2:55 PM <&TheMightyMcB> or Conwell, who runs deletions every single day
2:55 PM <Gee0765> real life happens randomly
2:55 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Niles, before I wait too long to ask this, are you on Site Crit now?
2:55 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i think niles was always on site crit
2:55 PM <Gee0765> so some weeks i can do like ten or something, and some weeks one or less
2:56 PM <AbsentmindedNihilist> RockTeethMothEyes: i always was
2:56 PM <&TheMightyMcB> it's her only listed team on 05command, though shes also on CO
2:56 PM <AbsentmindedNihilist> activity level varies but it was the team i started on
2:56 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I learned something today, and that is my friend Niles has always been my colleague.
2:56 PM <AbsentmindedNihilist> :)
2:56 PM <&TheMightyMcB> RockTeethMothEyes: so to get to my point
2:56 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Right, your point
2:57 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i think the 2-3 a week thing is something worth bringing up to soul
2:57 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Agreed.
2:57 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Because I've always felt a bit weird about it
2:57 PM <&TheMightyMcB> we would be better served modeling after forum crit
2:57 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And, let's be real, none of us are doing it
2:57 PM <Gee0765> mm
2:58 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i think its worth working on introducing our own version of the buttsquad roster as well
2:58 PM <&TheMightyMcB> or at least talking more abou tit
2:58 PM <AbsentmindedNihilist> i agre
2:58 PM <&TheMightyMcB> having nonstaff trusted site critters that can help lift the load from the very small pool of dedicated staffers
2:58 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> It did get brought up once, and we haven't really acted on it since.
2:58 PM <&TheMightyMcB> like that shit is super helpful for the forums
2:59 PM <Gee0765> mmm
2:59 PM <Gee0765> there's tons of people who leave great comments
2:59 PM <DrAkimoto> ^
2:59 PM <&TheMightyMcB> it would let us include people like namelessmediocre and trutherford, and also be inclusive of staffers who feel theyre too busy for the team proper
2:59 PM <&TheMightyMcB> like ard
3:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB: Do we want it to function like the current buttsquad roster?
3:00 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> As a public access list of trusted commenters?
3:02 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i would be fine with that
3:02 PM <&TheMightyMcB> it'd be less public inherently because uh yeah
3:02 PM <&TheMightyMcB> but we could sticky it in the per-page forums
3:02 PM <DrAkimoto> let's say, DrBlahBlah posts something and its stuck at 12 and none of the comments are really helping, this would give the writers a chance to seek out sitecrit for help
3:02 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i could also put it on contact staff
3:02 PM <&TheMightyMcB> like buttsquad is
3:03 PM <Gee0765> DrAgentResearcher420
3:03 PM <&TheMightyMcB> and link it in various newbie guides
3:03 PM <&TheMightyMcB> the list would really serve more to just like do the exact thing that buttsquad does
3:04 PM <&TheMightyMcB> it motivates nonstaff users to take a more active role and it's almost like a recognition for doing good stuff
3:04 PM <&TheMightyMcB> while also being a resource we can chuck at people
3:04 PM <DrAkimoto> I like the idea
3:05 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I can get behind this.
3:05 PM <&TheMightyMcB> why don't we scrape a sandbox together, modeled after buttsquad
3:06 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Sure. Any takers on that?
3:06 PM <&TheMightyMcB> just slowly add to it over time and show the captains
3:06 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i can open a collab
3:06 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Collab works.
3:06 PM <&TheMightyMcB> then all u fancy fucks get to use topiary
3:06 PM <Mew-ltiverse> Hi what did I miss
3:06 PM <Mew-ltiverse> I got lunch
3:06 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Welcome back, Mew. We're talking about making a buttsquad roster for site crit
3:06 PM <Mew-ltiverse> Oh cool, I like it
3:07 PM <DrAkimoto> Makingit now
3:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> DrAkimoto: Thank you
3:07 PM <&TheMightyMcB> oh you got this aki?
3:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Should we add it to the topic?
3:07 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i was also making one
3:07 PM <&TheMightyMcB> lmao
3:07 PM <Gee0765> yeah
3:07 PM <&TheMightyMcB> RockTeethMothEyes: topic is good
3:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Awesome.
3:07 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> We can use this chat for opinions on suggested additions as well
3:08 PM <DrAkimoto> http://topia.wikidot.com/collab:sitecritteamroster
3:08 PM <&TheMightyMcB> dope ill make an edit
3:08 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> we really need a better code name
3:08 PM <&TheMightyMcB> Swamp Critters
3:08 PM <Mew-ltiverse> The cool kids
3:08 PM <&TheMightyMcB> and we all pick swamp animals
3:08 PM <Gee0765> yep it works
3:08 PM <Mew-ltiverse> Yeah lol
3:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> okay yes I'm super into that
3:09 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> it speaks to me
3:09 PM <Gee0765> even has the swamp|site alliteration
3:10 PM <Mew-ltiverse> Loch nest Mewnster
3:11 PM <&TheMightyMcB> wait
3:11 PM <&TheMightyMcB> could we be the site cryptids
3:11 PM <MalyceGraves> I'm a fan of swamp things
3:11 PM <&TheMightyMcB> just a spitball
3:11 PM <Mew-ltiverse> YES
3:11 PM ~RockTeethMothEyes set the topic: #sitecritteam Channel for the Site Criticism Team Meetings | Next meeting arranged for 02/08/20 @ 3:00 PM EST | Transcripts: http://scp.bz/site-crit-transcript | RECRUITMENT: http://scp.bz/sc-app | ROSTER: http://scp.bz/sc-roster
3:12 PM <DrAkimoto> Cryptid Crew
3:12 PM <Mew-ltiverse> I am so for that
3:12 PM <&TheMightyMcB> wait rtme you have the scp.bz access code?
3:12 PM <&TheMightyMcB> nice
3:12 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Oh Site Cryptids is good
3:12 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> TheMightyMcB: It's in SSSC.
3:12 PM <&TheMightyMcB> shows how much attention i pay
3:12 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> It even says "Code" next to it.
3:13 PM <Gee0765> real cool kids have it without being in sssc
3:14 PM <Mew-ltiverse> Gee0765: yeah
3:14 PM <Gee0765> anyway
3:14 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Last thing I want to do before officially ending the meeting is bring up a recruit recommendation for Alces_Alces
3:14 PM <Gee0765> do we want to straight rip the buttsquad formatting
3:14 PM <&TheMightyMcB> Gee0765: i was thinking so yeah
3:15 PM <&TheMightyMcB> maybe different colors and such
3:15 PM <Gee0765> because it definitely works
3:15 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> We can still work on the site cryptids roster after, I just want to get this last thing out of the way
3:15 PM <Gee0765> and looks good
3:15 PM <Mew-ltiverse> As long as Zyn is okay with it
3:15 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i'd support alces on the team
3:15 PM <Mew-ltiverse> Me too
3:15 PM <DrAkimoto> I as well
3:15 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> That's three votes of confidence.
3:15 PM <&TheMightyMcB> Zyn: mind if site crit cribs your buttsquad roster?
3:15 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And enough for me.
3:15 PM <&TheMightyMcB> RockTeethMothEyes: rec them to soul fosho
3:16 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'll get a hold of them to pester Soul again.
3:16 PM <Gee0765> oh yeah I'd support them on the team
3:16 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Because they actually asked me if we were looking for people
3:16 PM <&TheMightyMcB> oh awesome
3:16 PM <&TheMightyMcB> yeah it'd be great to have alces
3:16 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> And I was like "You're opstaff. You can do whatever you want."
3:17 PM <MalyceGraves> It was cool that they asked first tho
3:17 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Oh, absolutely.
3:17 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> They're a good egg.
3:17 PM <Zyn> >** Ok im going to go through this as its written First off "must be in a room made of either lead or SCP-148" doesnt make any sense. First of, the wording in the article makes it sound as if the room isnt built yet. Secondly, SCP-148 was exactly 120 ingots and distributed evenly amoung sites, so I dont know how you build a room with it at all unless you melted them down into sheets, and made a box out of them which is highly improbable. Next, one s
3:17 PM <Zyn> ?
3:17 PM <Zyn> …wow uh whoops
3:17 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> lmao
3:17 PM <Zyn> sorry ignore that
3:17 PM <&TheMightyMcB> big oof
3:17 PM <Gee0765> lol
3:17 PM <Zyn> I forgot copypaste doesn't work in this chat I think
3:17 PM <Zyn> anyway, I meant to copypaste McB's crib post
3:18 PM <Zyn> are you asking if Site Crit recruits from Butterfly Squad?
3:18 PM <DrAkimoto> No we wanna steal the style/format of the roster
3:18 PM <&TheMightyMcB> ^
3:18 PM <Zyn> oh
3:18 PM <Zyn> yeah, go for it!
3:18 PM <&TheMightyMcB> we wanna try and make our own version to include nonstaff and staffers who are too busy but still wanna help
3:19 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Awesome possum
3:19 PM <Zyn> if it encourages participation in an area of the site that desperately needs more attention, by all means
3:19 PM <Zyn> I will say though… not sure about cryptids
3:19 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> As far as meeting goes, then, I've got nothing else.
3:19 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> BUT ZYN CRYPTIDS ARE COOL
3:19 PM — ~RockTeethMothEyes calming down
3:19 PM <MalyceGraves> I liked Swamp Critters
3:19 PM <Zyn> you want people joining because they can help out
3:19 PM <Zyn> I know… that's the issue
3:19 PM <DrAkimoto> MalyceGraves: of course you did lol
3:19 PM <Zyn> you don't want people pestering staff to put their name on the list
3:20 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Fair enough
3:20 PM <Zyn> because they want to be the 682 or the bigfoot or whatever
3:20 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Mostly making a big deal out of nothing for gags.
3:20 PM <Zyn> you also don't want people fighting over who gets to be what cryptids
3:20 PM <MalyceGraves> DrAkimoto: I live next to a swamp
3:20 PM <Zyn> or refusing to be added unless someone gets bumped off
3:20 PM <MalyceGraves> it's a thing
3:20 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i mean i would have thrown hands at anyone who had tarantula hawk ;)
3:21 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> We'll focus on building the list first.
3:21 PM <&TheMightyMcB> yes agreed
3:21 PM <&TheMightyMcB> the gimmick can be thought up whenever we have time to give Conwell a redbull
3:21 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Conwell deserves a redbull.
3:22 PM <Zyn> hahaha
3:22 PM <Zyn> <TheMightyMcB> i mean i would have thrown hands at anyone who had tarantula hawk ;)
3:22 PM <Zyn> sure, but how many people know about tarantula hawk?
3:22 PM <&TheMightyMcB> anybody who watches Brave Wilderness on youtube
3:22 PM <Gee0765> me
3:22 PM <Zyn> ME
3:22 PM <&TheMightyMcB> or played Fallotu New Vegas
3:22 PM <Zyn> COYOTE PETERSON
3:23 PM <Zyn> my favorite video is the one where he finds an iguana when looking for coconuts
3:23 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Alright. Neither captain is here to tell me otherwise and I think we've hit our thing for the next two weeks: build our roster when we have time.
3:23 PM <&TheMightyMcB> i love that dude
3:23 PM <Zyn> he puts it in his pocket.
3:23 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> We'll bring up mandates with Soulless next meeting.
3:24 PM <&TheMightyMcB> RockTeethMothEyes: i think it'll be valuable to start on the roster now if possible
3:24 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> Absolutely.
3:24 PM <&TheMightyMcB> while everyone is gathered
3:24 PM <~RockTeethMothEyes> I'm just ending my meeting stuff for ease of transcripting.
