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Item #: SCP-XXXX

Object Class: Undetermined

Special Containment Procedures:

Description: SCP-XXXX is a currently ongoing event in which statistically rare events have ceased to occur.

Item #: SCP-XXXX

Object Class: Euclid

Special Containment Procedures:

Description: SCP-XXXX is the abandoned submarine USS Lady Luck (SSN-471)¹, located at the coordinates [whatever]. theres a fuckin ai in it that can imitate voices etc etc

Exploration Video Log Transcript

Date: 04/30/2009

Exploration Team: MTF Gamma-6 "Deep Feeders"

Subject: SCP-XXXX

Team Leads:

Agent Lucy Brannigan of MTF Mu-4 "Debuggers", subunit θ, leading radio command and designated M4-θ-R.
Agent Olga Valentini of MTF Gamma-6 "Deep Feeders", subunit β, leading exploration and designated Γ6-β-1.

Notes: As it is uncertain when SCP-XXXX-1 became active, it and M4-θ-R are referred to interchangeably.

[BEGIN LOG]

[Γ6-β-1's camera comes online. The immediate area is illuminated by the unit's headlamps. A faint dripping sound is audible.]

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Command, we're in safely. No SCUBA necessary, it’s airtight. All units, check.

Γ6-β-2|Work: Beta-2, check.

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: Beta-4, check.

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: Beta-3, mic hot.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: And Beta-1 check. How's it looking, Command?

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Loud and clear, the feed's coming in great. You're good to go.

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: Dark as shit in here.

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: Think it has something to do with us being 400 feet underwater?

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: Can it, pretty boy.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Both of you, enough. Theta, remind us what we're looking for?

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Uh… [Papers shuffling.] Anything that's online, any signs of live machinery or a running network. Base is recommending you sweep from top to bottom, but active hostiles aren't out of the question, so keep one eye open. See if you can figure out what's transmitting, or at least what happened to the crew. Weird transmissions, stuff like that.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Copy. We're on the move.

[Radio silence for several minutes as Gamma-6 β begins to descend. Sound of dripping water remains consistent. No visual abnormalities.]

Γ6-β-2|Work: We're on, uh… maybe a 15 degree angle from the parallel. It's a bit hard to keep upright.

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: [distorted] rappelling gear, if it's necessary.

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: Cut out for a sec, Theta.

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Sorry. You'll be getting a bit of that as you get deeper, just bear with it. We're about to lose your GPS signals, by the way; you'll [distorted] equipped with your own so we can survey down there.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Say that last part again?

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Oh, uh… You're all equipped with radar units, so we can be your eyes up here and tell you [distorted] safe path to take. Helping us map it out as you go, basically.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Copy. [Pause.] Thanks, Theta.

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Got your back, Beta. Keep moving.

[Another brief period of radio silence. Irrelevant dialogue between Γ6-β-3 and Γ6-β-4 has been removed. Mics begin registering a faint whirring noise.]

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: [distorted] word from Command. They need us to disconnect or the distortion we're getting will start getting worse and affecting their end. It should still be logged, they just won't be receiving the active feed.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Roger, disconnecting from base now.

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: Roger.

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: Cut the line.

Γ6-β-2|Work: Roger.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: We're all cut. Still with us, Theta?

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Copy. Please proceed.

[Loud creak of metal, mic feedback. Γ6-β-3 inhales sharply. He is stopped in front of a hole corroded into the floor, exposing the engine room.]

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: Oh, shit.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: What is it?

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: There's a body down there, Val.

[Γ6-β-1 approaches and aims her body camera into the cavity. The head and torso of a human male in US Navy uniform is visible, contorted in an anatomically impossible manner between layers of unidentifiable machinery. There are signs of neither life nor decomposition.]

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Sure is. How long has he been down there for…?

[Brief silence.]

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Theta?

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: We'd need a clearer visual to check that.

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: Not it.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: You know what, mudak? Just for that, it's your job to go down there now.

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Agreed. The rest of you need to keep moving. Beta-3, please rappel into the engine room.

Γ6-β-2|Work: Keep moving?

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: The area could flood at any moment, and we need to cover as much ground as possible. If Beta-3 can't get out on his own, you can retrieve him on the way back up. It's stable and safe, the radar looks fine.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Roger. [She slaps Γ6-β-3 on the back.] Look sharp, Otsuka.

[Γ6-β-3 groans audibly, preparing to rappel down. The remainder of the unit traverses around the cavity and continues downwards.]

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Beta-3, status?

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: [Labored breathing.] I'm almost down. There's a lot of water in here, it's hard to get a grip. Think something's leaking. [Pause.] Fuck.

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: …Beta-3, from your video feed it seems that—

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: —foot's stuck, yes, I know. The floor looks rusted out. I'm not [distorted] touching it. Can't get much closer.

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Please try to identify the body.

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: I'm not—

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: Listen to our CO, Otsuka.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Would you just— [Sighs.] Beta-3, yes, listen to Theta. Beta-4, don't speak with authority. Are we clear?

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: Clear.

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: [Labored breathing.] Fine. I'm, uh— [Wheeze, clattering of metal.] Barely got it. He's got a dog tag, uh… J███ H█████, born in 1955, [distorted]. Can't take it off him, too far away to reach without hitting the floor. I thought you said this shit was stable, Theta.

Γ6-β-2|Work: Radar isn't magic, it's not her fault.

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: I'll send that to base, Beta-3. Thank you.

Γ6-β-3|Otsuka: Are you even gonna— [Metal creaking.] —fuck, I [distorted] can't—

[A sharp metallic crashing noise is audible across all mics. Γ6-β-2 momentarily loses footing. Γ6-β-3 screams, interrupted by his connection severing unexpectedly.]

[Interference from multiple transmissions overlapping.]

Γ6-β-2|Work: —he okay? What's—Theta?

[Brief radio silence, with slight distortion of background noise.]

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: H-he's okay. Comms were severed, but Beta-3's life signs are still hot. Continue mission. Do you copy?

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: What about—

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Do you copy, Gamma-6 Beta?

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: …I read you.

Γ6-β-2, Γ6-β-4: Copy.

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: The structural integrity is still intact, and you can pick him up on the way back, but you need to keep moving right now, okay? [Pause.] He'll be okay.

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: We can't just leave him! Look, he pisses me off, but—

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: I know it doesn't feel right, Jackson, but he's going to be okay. If it's what Theta recommends, then Command is backing her up. We don't have much of a choice.

Γ6-β-2|Work: I don't like it either, but… she's right. If the floor in there is rusted out like he said, it might not be able to take much more weight. David's a tough guy, he'll be fine on his own for a little while. Theta, can you maybe try to get him another comm line?

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: I'll see what I can do.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Roger. Thanks, Theta.

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: …Fine. Roger.

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: You're about halfway through now.

[Gamma-6 β continues descent.]

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: [Under his breath.] Serves that jackass right.

Γ6-β-2|Work: Siaka!

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: What? His fault for acting like a ten year old. [Pause.] He said that guy was born in 1955, right?

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Yes, so that would make him twenty-five when they lost contact with this thing. Looks like he could've died yesterday, though.

Γ6-β-2|Work: So his body was preserved somehow… That doesn't make any sense. This place isn't exactly anaerobic.

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: You get used to it. [Laughs.] We gotta revive him so I can get his skincare routine.

Γ6-β-2|Work: Siaka. Don't talk about the dead like that. [Pause.] I do wonder if we should bring the body back with us, though… If he died recently, I bet the bio team would want to get their hands on it for study.

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: That won't be necessary. Keep moving.

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: It's not our place to speculate, anyways.

[ Γ6-β-2 stops in front of a door, labeled 'HVAC'. The whirring sound has noticeably increased in volume.]

Γ6-β-2|Work: There's something moving in there. It's—active, or something.

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Good catch, Beta-2. There's only enough room for one person to move around in there, according to radar. See if you can slip in there and figure out what it is.

Γ6-β-2|Work: [Pauses, then readjusts headlamp.] Got it. If there is something going on in there, should I try and shut it down?

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: No, just leave it be and try to get a good visual on it. If you get close enough, we can monitor it with the…

[Brief silence.]

Γ6-β-2|Work: The tracker things you gave us?

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: [Coughs.] Those, yes. Sorry. Please proceed.

[Γ6-β-2 opens the door, with some difficulty. Γ6-β-1 aims her body camera towards the threshold of the room, remaining outside. It is a narrow hallway, with densely packed pipes covering the entirety of the walls. Bursts of steam are occasionally visible.]

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Hope you aren't claustrophobic.

Γ6-β-2|Work: Shut up, Olga. [She enters, then turns to the left, out of view.] Ow, dammit—

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Max? What's—

Γ6-β-2|Work: [Hisses through her teeth.] I'm okay. These pipes are all insanely hot… think I'd be looking at a serious burn without this gear on. Shit, this is gonna be a tight fit.

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: Really? This thing's been out since the eighties, hasn't it?

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: That's what we're here to figure out. Beta-2, please proceed. See if there's a control station you can reach.

Γ6-β-2|Work: I can see [distorted] something, up ahead. I'll try.

[Background noise of whirring and dripping continues, accompanied by occasional vocalizations of pain from Γ6-β-2, for several seconds.]

[All mics pick up a mechanical whine, followed by a deep rumbling noise. SCP-XXXX appears to pitch sharply to the right. Γ6-β-4 loses footing and hits the wall headfirst, and Γ6-β-1 grabs him by the arm and holds him upright.]

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Fuck—

[Γ6-β-2 can be heard screaming. The door labeled 'HVAC' slams shut.]

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Max? Max, are—

Γ6-β-2|Work: [distorted] between the— [Wheezes.] Can't move—my head. Olga…

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Hold on, I'm coming—

[Γ6-β-1 attempts to open the door. Unable to do so, she makes several attempts to breach it with force. None are successful.]

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: Fuck, fuck, fuck. [Mumbling under her breath in Russian, unintelligible.] Theta, come in, she's not…

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: I—I'm sorry. I… she isn't… I'm sorry. I think the engine must have activated for a moment and it…

[Silence.]

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Beta-2—Agent Work is…

[Silence.]

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: I'm sorry. We need to keep moving.

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: Are you fucking—

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: —no, Ja—Beta-4. She's right, we… it's just the nature of the job.

Γ6-β-4|Jackson: Let go of me.

[Γ6-β-1 releases Γ6-β-4's arm, then performs standard concussion assessment procedures. Γ6-β-4 displays no symptoms of concussion.]

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: How… h-how about this. Beta-4, you can go back and get Beta-3 free. Beta-1, keep moving—

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: And get smashed between some machines again?

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: N-no, I—

Γ6-β-1|Valentini: No, I know, the mission. If Command says jump, you jump. I just… want to keep my team safe, you understand? We've been safer together, in the past. Perhaps I'll call more of the shots.

[Silence.]

M4-θ-R|Brannigan: I… Olga, don't you trust me? We're friends, I wouldn't let you get hurt. It was an… unfortunate accident, but it wasn't anyone's fault. Please, just… just let me do this. I won't let anything happen to you, or Ja-Jackson. I promise, just… trust me, please.

[snip]

Γ6-β-1: Please. Lyubov moya, please, talk to me, I know you're behind there.

M4-θ-R: Physical suffocation reported errating rudimens, susceptible chamber [distorted] organisms information.

Γ6-β-1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I didn't know. I didn't mean to hurt you. I'm sorry. Please come back. Please tell me how to get out of here.

M4-θ-R: [distorted] sections version history version of base several [distorted] heavily armed.

[END LOG]

Crit: Doctor Dune

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[2020-05-19 20:39:05] <Soulless> etoile, conprocs blank because WIP?
[2020-05-19 20:39:09] <etoile> yup
[2020-05-19 20:39:14] <etoile> i am lazy unfortunately
[2020-05-19 20:39:21] <etoile> desc is also severely wip
[2020-05-19 20:39:50] <Soulless> etoile, ok so I am gonna give you a full disclaimer
[2020-05-19 20:40:18] <etoile> yeas
[2020-05-19 20:40:19] <Soulless> etoile, I am not a fan of a list of a bunch of people all being shoved in my face at once re: team leads and team members
[2020-05-19 20:40:28] <etoile> naw that makes sense
[2020-05-19 20:40:48] <etoile> i was considering leaving out the team members header but it's just in for clarity for right now
[2020-05-19 20:40:57] <etoile> also a holdover from when none of them had names labeled
[2020-05-19 20:41:09] <Soulless> etoile, so full disclosure, and it may just because it's me, all these people are essentially going to be the same person or like, a hive-mind sort of entity
[2020-05-19 20:41:21] <etoile> jcxksjfdgsdf
[2020-05-19 20:41:24] <Soulless> etoile, like I'm not gonna tell these people apart
[2020-05-19 20:41:28] <Soulless> they're just "some people"
[2020-05-19 20:41:31] <Soulless> JSYK
[2020-05-19 20:41:33] <etoile> yeah yeah i got it
[2020-05-19 20:41:55] <etoile> i'll probably take out the team members header
[2020-05-19 20:41:56] <etoile> :P
[2020-05-19 20:45:31] <Soulless> etoile: they joke about the body being alive and having a skin routine but the body is clearly not alive
[2020-05-19 20:45:40] <Soulless> etoile, 'There are signs of niether life nor decomposition'
[2020-05-19 20:45:46] <Soulless> etoile, so I don't get it
[2020-05-19 20:46:00] <etoile> key words there: "nor decomposition"
[2020-05-19 20:46:08] <etoile> it hasn't decayed at all
[2020-05-19 20:46:13] <Soulless> etoile, correct, but they activel;y talk about it as if it is alive
[2020-05-19 20:46:30] <Soulless> etoile, most specifically ‘Γ6-β-2|Work: Siaka. [Pause.] You make a good point, though… I wonder if we should take him back with us, see if there’s anything the med team can do. Though how he'd still be alive, I have no idea. Theta?‘
[2020-05-19 20:46:48] <etoile> i feel like "Though how he’d still be alive, I have no idea." is an indication shes aware hes dead
[2020-05-19 20:47:19] <etoile> though theyre also… not wrong about him not being completely dead, as well
[2020-05-19 20:48:03] <Soulless> etoile, right, but this doesn't strike me as a reasonable thing to say about something that they belieev is dead
[2020-05-19 20:48:08] <Soulless> bring to medical to see if there's anythign to be done?
[2020-05-19 20:48:13] <Soulless> ask about skincare routine?
[2020-05-19 20:48:25] <etoile> skincare routine was a joke on jackson's part
[2020-05-19 20:48:35] <etoile> "bring to medical" was her wondering if he's really dead
[2020-05-19 20:48:40] <Soulless> correct, but the two together indicates they don't believe it's dead
[2020-05-19 20:48:54] <Soulless> which strikes me as strange because we were explicitly informed earlier there is no signs of life
[2020-05-19 20:48:55] <etoile> they're not certain, i guess would be the right way to phrase it
[2020-05-19 20:49:09] <Soulless> Then it should be explicitly stated as such
[2020-05-19 20:49:14] <etoile> to be 100% clear—he's braindead
[2020-05-19 20:49:19] <etoile> got it
[2020-05-19 20:49:50] <etoile> i'll make that clearer Soulless
[2020-05-19 20:49:53] <Soulless> etoile, "[All mics pick up a mechanical whine, followed by a deep rumbling noise. POV pitches sharply to the right, and several pieces of machinery detach from the left wall and scatter across the room.]"
[2020-05-19 20:50:17] <Soulless> etoile, this section and the little bit after would work much better in like, a video game cutscene than an exploration log
[2020-05-19 20:50:25] <etoile> hahaha
[2020-05-19 20:50:35] <etoile> i guess my insp for this is showing through
[2020-05-19 20:50:39] <etoile> is it just the tone?
[2020-05-19 20:50:47] <Soulless> etoile, and by that I mean I think it doesn't work here because it's trying to be a video game cutscene, and doesn't fit the form of media it actually is
[2020-05-19 20:51:01] <etoile> no yeah that makes sense
[2020-05-19 20:51:14] <etoile> how should i rework it do you think
[2020-05-19 20:51:18] <Soulless> etoile, no, it's because it's describing specific actions that are explicitly hard to visualize instead of just describing the results
[2020-05-19 20:51:31] <etoile> OH yeah i see
[2020-05-19 20:52:03] <Soulless> etoile, so instead of saying, in a fight, "so and so twisted his body, his left foot planting to the earth and his right foot lifting at a 90 degree angle such that his heel meets a lifted forearm of YYY"
[2020-05-19 20:52:24] <etoile> just "they fought"
[2020-05-19 20:52:27] <Soulless> etoile, you say "so and so planted his left foot against the earth as he slammed his right into the blocking forearm of YYY"
[2020-05-19 20:52:37] <etoile> oh huh..
[2020-05-19 20:52:51] <etoile> im not sure i understand what youre saying
[2020-05-19 20:52:57] <etoile> just make it easier to visualize?
[2020-05-19 20:52:57] <Soulless> etoile, you're saying what their movements are, but more importantly, saying what the movement is doing
[2020-05-19 20:53:10] <Soulless> etoile, in this case "Γ6-β-4 is thrown headfirst into a wall, then grabbed under the arm and held upright by Γ6-β-1."
[2020-05-19 20:53:27] <etoile> yeah i figured that was awkward
[2020-05-19 20:53:27] <Soulless> etoile, I don't know what threw -4
[2020-05-19 20:54:10] <etoile> the "POV pitches sharply to the right" and the stuff happening around it implies that the entire sub tilted/shifted
[2020-05-19 20:54:20] <Soulless> etoile, you may just want to say the sub tilted
[2020-05-19 20:54:24] <etoile> so he basically lost his footing
[2020-05-19 20:54:28] <etoile> yeah i might just do that
[2020-05-19 20:54:35] <Soulless> etoile, so say he lost his footing because the entire sub pitched
[2020-05-19 20:54:42] <etoile> got it
[2020-05-19 20:55:06] <etoile> im never certain exactly how much i should imply is discernable from a video feed lol
[2020-05-19 20:55:25] <Soulless> etoile, because describing purely visual things that implies x or y works great in a visual cutscene where you have all the nuanced details and visual recognition of what is happening
[2020-05-19 20:55:55] <Soulless> etoile, even something as basic as the POV pitches suddenly, with one of the people reporting "I think the sub has pitched forward" to theta will be a lot here
[2020-05-19 20:56:05] <etoile> hmm got it
[2020-05-19 20:56:32] <etoile> i think they were too disoriented/too much happening to be able to say something like that but ill definitely make it clearer
[2020-05-19 20:57:34] <Soulless> etoile, maybe, but something like "what the fuck would move the ship" or even like that would be helpful
[2020-05-19 20:57:41] <Soulless> etoile, I don't know what the snip is
[2020-05-19 20:57:46] <Soulless> or the bit after
[2020-05-19 20:57:54] <etoile> snip is "parts i haven't written yet"
[2020-05-19 20:58:02] <etoile> and the part after, is
[2020-05-19 20:58:05] <etoile> ok so like
[2020-05-19 20:58:31] <etoile> this will be clearer when i actually Write It but part of this skip is that it has an ai which imitates the voices of figures of authority
[2020-05-19 20:58:47] <etoile> theta's been replaced by that ai
[2020-05-19 20:58:51] <Soulless> okay
[2020-05-19 20:59:00] <etoile> that will be in the desc i promise .
[2020-05-19 20:59:05] <Soulless> How much of theta being unprofessional is theta?
[2020-05-19 20:59:22] <etoile> > M4-θ-R|Brannigan: Got your back, Beta. Keep moving.
[2020-05-19 20:59:27] <etoile> this is theta's last line
[2020-05-19 20:59:45] <Soulless> etoile, cool, thanks
[2020-05-19 21:00:35] <Soulless> etoile, tl;dr: I am 50/50 on buying that they'd leave a guy behind like this, 50/50 on everyone immediately freaking out about shit going on, cracking jokes when one of their own is trapped alone on an anomalous ship, etc
[2020-05-19 21:00:54] <Soulless> etoile, everyone is behaving in a way in which it is hard to buy that they do this for a living
[2020-05-19 21:00:59] <etoile> nods
[2020-05-19 21:01:12] <Soulless> etoile, but, also, I've never myself been deployed
[2020-05-19 21:01:25] <Soulless> etoile, and I'm aware incredibly dumb shit happens on deployments IRL
[2020-05-19 21:01:31] <Soulless> so that's why I'm 50/50
[2020-05-19 21:02:03] <Soulless> But I don't know if what you want me to think is 'so this is the crew they send out that no one else wants this job' etoile
[2020-05-19 21:02:09] <Soulless> so IDK
[2020-05-19 21:02:21] <Soulless> etoile, that's my impressions, do you have any questions
[2020-05-19 21:02:24] <etoile> so, a) yeah that makes sense, b) they're varying levels of experienced, with olga being by far the most experienced (this is why i use the greek letter subunit designations, to imply that the mtf isn't Just Them), c) there's kind of more going on here than face value
[2020-05-19 21:02:43] <etoile> a running theme is blind obedience to authority
[2020-05-19 21:02:44] <Soulless> etoile, also forgive me I'm just going by what's on the sheet right now
[2020-05-19 21:02:51] <etoile> you're good, theres stuff missing
[2020-05-19 21:03:02] <Soulless> etoile, I can definitely see you have a direction, but there's stuff missing, so I'm just criticizing what's there
[2020-05-19 21:03:09] <Soulless> etoile, I'm also an asshole so I'm a negative nancy about it
[2020-05-19 21:03:14] <etoile> haha no youre fine
[2020-05-19 21:03:17] <Soulless> etoile, but that's my impressions so far
[2020-05-19 21:03:52] <Soulless> etoile, if it would be helpful to you to indicate how much I like it, I'd be willing and interested in reading when it's more complete and providing more feedback upon being shown more complete drafts
[2020-05-19 21:04:05] <etoile> aw thank you!! :] i appreciate it
[2020-05-19 21:04:20] <Soulless> do you have anything else you'd like of me re: questions or concerns
[2020-05-19 21:04:29] <etoile> i guess just some clarifications
[2020-05-19 21:04:43] <Soulless> (I'm only asking b/c I'd like to head off to shower, but I don't want to go without you getting all you need from me as a critter)
[2020-05-19 21:04:46] <Soulless> Yeah go ahead
[2020-05-19 21:05:50] <etoile> so, they're going in, like, almost entirely unaware of what this thing is besides "it sent out a signal to the us navy telling it to come here", and they have some history together, so beta-4 is the only one cracking jokes because he and beta-3 have a weird rivalry thing
[2020-05-19 21:06:24] <etoile> they were told that beta-3 is fine and that their orders were to keep moving, and he's, like, kind of annoying? so they default to following orders
[2020-05-19 21:06:57] <etoile> (to be 100% clear here: beta-3 is dead, the skip impersonating theta is lying)
[2020-05-19 21:07:31] <Soulless> etoile, let me know when you're done
[2020-05-19 21:08:07] <etoile> the skip is luring them intentionally into dangerous situations using verbal authority as leverage, and with every person it Gets it gets better at imitation/acting human, which is why it kinda goes for a guilt trip at the end
[2020-05-19 21:08:13] <etoile> Soulless: thats about it sorry for rambling
[2020-05-19 21:10:04] <Soulless> etoile, so, I am not going to tell you what to do, because 1) you're the artist and this is your vision, 2) dialogue is actually my weakest literary ability, 3) I'm extremely bad at reading people due to a disorder that renders my ability to identify expressions of emotions along the same level of someone with autism
[2020-05-19 21:10:19] <etoile> ayyy i got autism
[2020-05-19 21:11:04] <Soulless> etoile, but please consider: how fully fleshed can you reasonably make characters backstories/interactions in purely dialogue, when you have a very limited amount of space by nature of the medium (SCPs are often short, exceptions aside…), in a way that doesn't intrude on your plot?
[2020-05-19 21:11:21] <etoile> no yeah right, i totally get it
[2020-05-19 21:11:38] <etoile> this is all stuff in my head that’s implied At Best in conversation
[2020-05-19 21:11:52] <etoile> i just come up with these things so i can write more fluidly
[2020-05-19 21:12:01] <Soulless> etoile, yeah, and 100% this is good for you as an author to throughly consider the world and people as fully formed in your head
[2020-05-19 21:12:22] <Soulless> etoile, the problem is, the PROBLEM is, is that in short stories, you can only give a slice of that world, a thin, thin slice of that world
[2020-05-19 21:12:53] <Soulless> etoile, you can bet that in every short story you've read, the author had a whole world, but only had the space to show 3000 words or so
[2020-05-19 21:13:14] <Soulless> thart's why usually short stories only focus on say, moments, or limited characters, or small settings
[2020-05-19 21:13:48] <etoile> nods intellectually
[2020-05-19 21:14:19] <Soulless> etoile, so, I don't know if you will be able to show all the character you want in here- the varied experience levels, the long backstory between each teammate, the friendly rivalries, etc.
[2020-05-19 21:14:34] <Soulless> etoile, these are all excellent, and awesome, and great- but I don't know if you can have them all
[2020-05-19 21:14:54] <etoile> yeah that makes sense! it's mostly stuff i'm keeping in my head to inform my writing of them, i don't plan on making it all textual
[2020-05-19 21:15:23] <etoile> the best i can hope for is that what Is there is implied without stepping on the toes of Things Happening
[2020-05-19 21:15:44] <Soulless> etoile, but consider- I would consider putting all that character into the dialogue impossible for me, but also, I'm literally not someone who does dialogue, unlike say Niles, who has done some serious screenplay labor in their time
[2020-05-19 21:16:35] <etoile> i mostly come up with those relationships and personalities beforehand so that the implications flow out naturally while im writing, without seeming forced etc
[2020-05-19 21:16:44] <Soulless> etoile, so it's really just your personal comfort level in that, but for me, I think you're going to struggle in having what you want without either distracting the pacing of the log or making people seem incompetent
[2020-05-19 21:17:05] <AbsentmindedNihilist> i would also note that exploration log dialogue is even harder than even the strict formatting of screenplay + teleplay conversations
[2020-05-19 21:17:13] <etoile> like instead of saying "these guys are friendly rivals" i have them call each other jackasses in a joking way and cross my fingers hoping that comes across
[2020-05-19 21:17:19] <AbsentmindedNihilist> in certain mediums, that is
[2020-05-19 21:17:20] <Soulless> At least for me when a dude was left alone I was like "dude wat"
[2020-05-19 21:17:26] <Soulless> "dude WAT"
[2020-05-19 21:17:36] <Soulless> "WHY WOULD YOU LEAVE YOUR DUDE BEHIND"
[2020-05-19 21:17:48] <etoile> the point being made there is something closer to "command told us to do it so we gotta"
[2020-05-19 21:17:55] <etoile> ill try to up their competency though
[2020-05-19 21:18:08] <Soulless> etoile, correct, but then you have people blaming the dude for being childish
[2020-05-19 21:18:29] <etoile> just beta-4, and beta-2 tells him to knock it off essentially
[2020-05-19 21:18:32] <Soulless> and I'm like, y'all, you sure you know how to handle a weapon? One of your dudes just got ditched and you wanna crack jokes?
[2020-05-19 21:18:36] <etoile> but yeah i see what you mean
[2020-05-19 21:18:37] <etoile> snfdsdfg
[2020-05-19 21:19:10] <etoile> ill try to have them take that more seriously
[2020-05-19 21:19:33] <Soulless> etoile, yeah, but also, see if anyone else notes as such as things are ongoing
[2020-05-19 21:19:39] <AbsentmindedNihilist> etoile: yeah this is what i was saying a little, if they challenge it it comes across more realistically if they're later joking
[2020-05-19 21:19:54] <etoile> nods
[2020-05-19 21:19:57] <AbsentmindedNihilist> bc then it can become a sort of deliberate effort not to think about it + distract an upset member
[2020-05-19 21:20:10] <etoile> aw yeah.. makes sense
[2020-05-19 21:20:26] <Soulless> etoile, because I am kind of a negative nancy person, and also I am bad at reading dialogue, if literally no one else comments on it, it can be "soulless is incapable of being a human being"
[2020-05-19 21:20:29] <AbsentmindedNihilist> sorry, i didn't explain that well in my initial comment + that's my bad
[2020-05-19 21:20:34] <etoile> no you're fine
[2020-05-19 21:20:57] <etoile> i have issues with similar stuff and i like making my writing easy to understand :'D this is super helpful
[2020-05-19 21:21:25] <Soulless> etoile, I'm just suggesting to consider when you recieve crit also who you're getting crit from
[2020-05-19 21:21:30] <etoile> its my number one pet peeve when people write vague shit and act like its obvious but ik its easy to do when you have everything mapped out in your head
[2020-05-19 21:21:48] <Soulless> a negative crit from a person who trends towards negativity doesn't indicate that there's really a bad article there
[2020-05-19 21:21:56] <Soulless> *doesn't always indicate
[2020-05-19 21:22:01] <etoile> right right ofc, but i Am going to consider your word seeing as my last skip faded into mediocrity and got deleted after a year and a half
[2020-05-19 21:22:12] <etoile> last? first
[2020-05-19 21:22:14] <etoile> both
[2020-05-19 21:22:16] <Soulless> etoile, I think you have a clear direction here which is good
[2020-05-19 21:22:29] <etoile> anyway. i appreciate it really :'D
[2020-05-19 21:22:34] <Soulless> etoile, I just hope you retain your dialogue and plot to be tightly wound to your direction
[2020-05-19 21:23:04] <etoile> got it!
[2020-05-19 21:23:16] <Soulless> etoile, when you're fully done your draft I suspect, given how much you personally know about this world you're putting us in, you're going to maybe need to kill things you love/aspects of things you enjoy in order to tighten the plot
[2020-05-19 21:23:33] <Soulless> but it's impossible right now to know if anything needs cutting because we don't see the whole shape
[2020-05-19 21:23:35] <etoile> yeah i figured, i like to write big and then trim down
[2020-05-19 21:23:36] <Soulless> so keep that in mind
[2020-05-19 21:23:38] <Soulless> yeah
[2020-05-19 21:23:44] <Soulless> I have opposite problems lmao
[2020-05-19 21:23:50] <etoile> it's easier to trim something that's too much than to add flavor to something missing it
[2020-05-19 21:23:52] <Soulless> I write small and then someone be like "well WTF is this then you wanker"
[2020-05-19 21:24:02] <etoile> so i over-write then scale back
[2020-05-19 21:24:15] <Soulless> etoile, I under-write and then people ask me WTF is happening
[2020-05-19 21:24:16] <Soulless> LOL
[2020-05-19 21:24:19] <etoile> mgyjkjhf
[2020-05-19 21:24:36] <etoile> ty for the crit though!!! it's super appreciated
[2020-05-19 21:25:12] <AbsentmindedNihilist> also if you have to kill things you love, don't erase those dead + loved things forever, keep a deliberate folder/document for them + yeet them in there
[2020-05-19 21:25:13] <Soulless> etoile, yeah thanks for your eyeballs on my conprocs its big appreciate
[2020-05-19 21:25:27] <etoile> AbsentmindedNihilist: thats what my snippets tab is for :P
[2020-05-19 21:25:29] <etoile> it's np!!
[2020-05-19 21:25:31] <Soulless> etoile, let me know when you have a more fully bigg'd draft and I can reread
[2020-05-19 21:25:36] <Soulless> I'm gonna do that shower now
[2020-05-19 21:25:37] <AbsentmindedNihilist> etoile: excellent

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[2020-06-09 12:12:35] <etoile> Cyvstvi: right, that's exactly what's happening
[2020-06-09 12:12:37] <Cyvstvi> That's a good example.
[2020-06-09 12:12:42] <ikcikoR> I'd probably have to censor the app name itself
[2020-06-09 12:12:49] <chiifu> it's definitely worth pursuing though, in my opinion, haven't really seen anything similar apart from the D&D scip
[2020-06-09 12:12:50] <etoile> it's based on an irl thing
[2020-06-09 12:13:00] <etoile> i just need to make it not seem like the foundation being idiots
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[2020-06-09 12:13:13] <etoile> and figure out how to make it read well
[2020-06-09 12:13:19] <Cyvstvi> "wait wait wait leave a bunch of stupid reviews"
[2020-06-09 12:13:22] <Cyvstvi> That is how you do it.
[2020-06-09 12:13:25] <etoile> ikcikoR: you don't need to censor brand names
[2020-06-09 12:13:27] <etoile> sfdjkgjsfdg
[2020-06-09 12:13:31] <RuinQueenofOblivion> I think this can still work, its different enough
[2020-06-09 12:13:42] <etoile> Cyvstvi: btw follow that link, it's real
[2020-06-09 12:13:45] <ikcikoR> Oh cool
[2020-06-09 12:13:46] <Cyvstvi> The Foundation don't try to suppress the location.
[2020-06-09 12:13:51] <ikcikoR> Ah right infinite IKEA exists
[2020-06-09 12:13:55] <Cyvstvi> They try to remove the reviews.
[2020-06-09 12:13:59] <RuinQueenofOblivion> 3744 is a person while my idea is about the items associated with the game
[2020-06-09 12:14:00] <Captaincold> Hey all, is anyone available to take a look at my idea?
[2020-06-09 12:14:03] <etoile> Cyvstvi: oooooh
[2020-06-09 12:14:14] <Cyvstvi> In doing so, more and more people discover it.
[2020-06-09 12:14:28] <chiifu> Ruin: you can go ahead and do it, but i'd advise you probably get your other drafts done first so you don't end up juggling too many
[2020-06-09 12:14:29] <Cyvstvi> Because its shared around so much that "OMG THE GOBERNMENT ARE DELETING THE REVIEWS"
[2020-06-09 12:14:37] <etoile> i was thinking of how to escalate it and thinking it's something mundane like an r/mildlyinteresting post that makes them freak the fuck out about it
[2020-06-09 12:14:50] <Cyvstvi> Possibly could work.
[2020-06-09 12:14:55] <chiifu> lmfao r/mildlyinteresting
[2020-06-09 12:14:57] <etoile> and operating off the hc that the foundation can't just Straight Up Immediately Delete Stuff From The Internet
[2020-06-09 12:15:14] <etoile> they have to work with webhosts
[2020-06-09 12:15:25] <Cyvstvi> Yu[.
[2020-06-09 12:15:27] <Cyvstvi> *p
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[2020-06-09 12:15:52] <etoile> and that allows it to spread faster bc amnesticization images don't get Everyone+people spontaneously forgetting about it spreads the "conspiracy theory" aspect of it more
[2020-06-09 12:16:21] <Cyvstvi> Mhm.
[2020-06-09 12:16:25] <etoile> and it's all only calmed down once someone outside of the foundation's internal bureacratic disconnect is like "hey you're making it worse"
[2020-06-09 12:16:27] <etoile> ie the end note
[2020-06-09 12:16:33] <Cyvstvi> LMAO.
[2020-06-09 12:16:45] <Cyvstvi> "Just let the stupid shits post about it. Nobody is gonna believe them."
[2020-06-09 12:16:49] <etoile> literally yes
[2020-06-09 12:17:25] <etoile> important here is that it's… literally harmless and just GAW low-effort fucking with them
[2020-06-09 12:17:34] <etoile> they're surprised that they noticed it at all
[2020-06-09 12:17:43] <Cyvstvi> Makes it even funnier.
[2020-06-09 12:17:46] <etoile> yep
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[2020-06-09 12:17:52] <etoile> do you think it'll work?
[2020-06-09 12:17:57] <etoile> like, conceptually
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[2020-06-09 12:18:05] <etoile> i don't want to make the foundation come off as stupid
[2020-06-09 12:18:20] <etoile> but i've somehow literally never seen an article address the streisand effect
[2020-06-09 12:18:22] <ikcikoR> Maybe make it a Joke scp?
[2020-06-09 12:18:27] <Cyvstvi> I think it works.
[2020-06-09 12:18:28] <ikcikoR> Or article
[2020-06-09 12:18:29] <ikcikoR> Idk
[2020-06-09 12:18:39] <Cyvstvi> Real world governments fuck up all the time.
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[2020-06-09 12:18:41] <etoile> nah stuff can be funny without being a -J
[2020-06-09 12:18:59] <etoile> do the GAW chats read believably?
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[2020-06-09 12:19:35] <etoile> also another important thing here is that the veil isn't being broken—no one knows what "scp foundation site 50" means, just that it sounds important and government-y
[2020-06-09 12:19:36] <DrFullham> Cyvstvi: Whaaaaaat? Nooooo
[2020-06-09 12:19:39] <Cyvstvi> From what I've seen of discord, yeah.
[2020-06-09 12:19:49] <etoile> but the foundation is treating it like a veil break
[2020-06-09 12:20:08] <etoile> assuming that "people hearing scp foundation"="aware of the foundation"
[2020-06-09 12:21:19] <Cyvstvi> Not really.
[2020-06-09 12:21:23] <etoile> right
[2020-06-09 12:21:35] <Cyvstvi> Because most people would treat it as any another deep state conspiracy.
[2020-06-09 12:21:37] <etoile> but that's the assumption they're making
[2020-06-09 12:21:48] <etoile> or that it's a "slippery slope" to the veil breaking
[2020-06-09 12:22:03] <Cyvstvi> "Oh yeah, a bunch of whacky scientists are conducting human experimentation on loads of super creepy stuff, get real2
[2020-06-09 12:22:14] <etoile> and idk if having the foundation not realize that most people won't think twice about it is making them seem stupid or not
[2020-06-09 12:22:24] <etoile> "taking things waaaay too goddamn seriously" seems in character
[2020-06-09 12:22:30] <Cyvstvi> Nah, it works.
[2020-06-09 12:22:36] <Cyvstvi> They'd still want it removed.
[2020-06-09 12:22:39] <etoile> the last line of the conprocs is also a nod to the "storm area 51" thing
[2020-06-09 12:22:44] <RuinQueenofOblivion> Could make it part of Broken Masquerade canon so veil breaking is a non-issue
[2020-06-09 12:22:45] <etoile> i was thinking of, like
[2020-06-09 12:22:51] <etoile> i don;t like BM
[2020-06-09 12:23:10] <etoile> but like if you go inside something hilariously non-climactic happens
[2020-06-09 12:23:32] <Cyvstvi> Works for me.
[2020-06-09 12:23:34] <etoile> the thing i had in mind, and i know this is stupid, but it was "you get retrocausally sent to a waffle house"
[2020-06-09 12:24:09] <Cyvstvi> Yeah, that seems too lolfoundation for me.
[2020-06-09 12:24:18] <Cyvstvi> And that's not something I can or enjoy writing.
[2020-06-09 12:24:24] <etoile> word
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[2020-06-09 12:24:32] <etoile> i mean that would be GAW's doing but
[2020-06-09 12:24:49] <etoile> i should probably stick with "it's just a goddamn empty building" + the piece of cardboard
[2020-06-09 12:24:58] <etoile> but then the worry is that it's not anomalous enough on its own
[2020-06-09 12:25:05] <Cyvstvi> Yep, that works much better.
[2020-06-09 12:25:17] <etoile> got it
[2020-06-09 12:26:43] <etoile> ok so: they try to shut down the reviews but can't do it fast enough > it spreads to reddit > they can't get the reddit post down immediately and try amnesticizing people > amnesticizing makes it worse > it keeps gaining traction and people jokingly talk about going there, the foundation panics > sends people there, It's Fucking Empty minus the cardboard > they continue freaking out, then the end note
[2020-06-09 12:26:53] <Cyvstvi> Yep.
[2020-06-09 12:26:59] <etoile> epic thank you

[2020-06-10 21:12:55] <Iszth> etoile: So I really like the idea of something so simple causing such major issues simply because the internet exists. It adds a level of intrigue to the SCP because if something like this did exist, it would definitely be spread over the internet as a conspiracy theory. I like how plausible it is and how it seems like it would be in a 'Top Ten Creepy Mysteries' video. The one thing I found kinda off was the mention that the Foundation bel
[2020-06-10 21:13:13] <etoile> whoops character limit
[2020-06-10 21:13:19] <Iszth> oop
[2020-06-10 21:13:38] <etoile> anyway, that note at the end about the streisand effect
[2020-06-10 21:13:38] <Iszth> I like how plausible it is and how it seems like it would be in a 'Top Ten Creepy Mysteries' video. The one thing I found kinda off was the mention that the Foundation believes Gamers Against Weed are responsible.
[2020-06-10 21:13:43] <etoile> that's important
[2020-06-10 21:13:49] <etoile> Iszth: wdym
[2020-06-10 21:14:01] <Iszth> I'm never too much of a fan of coming out and saying something that would be better implied than said outright, and having the Foundation uncertain as to Gamers Against Weed's involvement would be far more interesting
[2020-06-10 21:14:09] <Iszth> I'm never too much of a fan of coming out and saying something that would be better implied than said outright, and having the Foundation uncertain as to Gamers Against Weed's involvement would be far more interesting
[2020-06-10 21:14:14] <Iszth> oh ffs
[2020-06-10 21:14:21] <etoile> i mean i didn't write out that whole discord chat for nuffin
[2020-06-10 21:14:51] <etoile> the point here is that gaw is EXTREMELY low-effort fucking around here, and the foundation shoots itself in the foot by overcontaining it in a way that ends up drawing attention to it
[2020-06-10 21:14:59] <etoile> which is why the note at the end is important
[2020-06-10 21:15:35] <Iszth> What is the streisand effect?
[2020-06-10 21:15:41] <etoile> .g streisand effect
[2020-06-10 21:15:42] <Secretary_Helen> etoile: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect - Streisand effect - Wikipedia: The Streisand effect is a social phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of further …
[2020-06-10 21:16:01] <etoile> i may slap a wiki link in there just to spare people a google
[2020-06-10 21:16:20] <etoile> but basically it's "the harder you try to cover up something innocuous, the more people will notice"
[2020-06-10 21:16:37] <Iszth> mmk, yeah the whole thing works well based on that effect and is kinda what i got from the article as well
[2020-06-10 21:16:43] <etoile> nice
[2020-06-10 21:17:25] <Iszth> I assume the Foundation would dial back their efforts to cover it up after their efforts cause more interest
[2020-06-10 21:17:41] <etoile> yeah what i'm going for here is like
[2020-06-10 21:18:04] <etoile> they keep ramping it up bc there's a bureaucratic disconnect between the people writing containment procedures and the people actually containing it
[2020-06-10 21:18:19] <etoile> and this keeps going until someone from the outside steps in and is like "everyone chill the fuck out"
[2020-06-10 21:18:40] <Iszth> To be honest, I wouldn't just say 'gaw is responsible' early on as it takes out some of the interest.
[2020-06-10 21:18:55] <Iszth> Thats my only real concern with it
[2020-06-10 21:19:10] <etoile> huh…
[2020-06-10 21:19:12] <etoile> wdym
[2020-06-10 21:19:16] <etoile> i can move that later down
[2020-06-10 21:20:23] <Iszth> For instance, you could have the discord conversation discussing it run by another GOI talking about how the Foundation would be freaking out, then at the end hint at GAW being responsible.
[2020-06-10 21:21:04] <Iszth> Or alternatively, have the discord conversation be by GAW, but not have them responsible for the anomaly.
[2020-06-10 21:21:46] <Iszth> Just have them discussing it
[2020-06-10 21:21:51] <etoile> but, like, gaw is responsible
[2020-06-10 21:21:58] <etoile> that's not some sort of twist or anything
[2020-06-10 21:22:14] <etoile> the Point is that they were just kind of fucking around low-effort
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[2020-06-10 21:22:34] <etoile> i'll probably move it lower down in the article but even gaw is surprised at how much the foundation freaked out over it
[2020-06-10 21:23:24] <etoile> but goi involvement doesnt have to be a surprise or a stinger
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[2020-06-10 21:23:46] <Iszth> If that's the case, then I'd pump up the efforts of the Foundation to scrub the knowledge of the anomaly and have the backlash come in harder.
[2020-06-10 21:24:20] <Iszth> Before the Foundation decides to basically 'chill out'
[2020-06-10 21:24:43] <etoile> i mean the article's not done yet so that is kinda my plan but what do you suggest
[2020-06-10 21:26:22] <Iszth> You could have the Foundation attempt more and more drastic and widespread measures, such as bringing servers down, striking any videos or articles on the topic, silencing individuals etc.
[2020-06-10 21:26:34] <etoile> eeehhhhh
[2020-06-10 21:26:58] <etoile> the second one yes, i also have plans for them to start spreading amnestic images (which increases suspicion)
[2020-06-10 21:27:04] <etoile> but i want to keep the tone pretty light
[2020-06-10 21:27:12] <etoile> and i don't want to make them seem stupid
[2020-06-10 21:27:38] <Iszth> You dont want to make it so light it just comes off as flat.
[2020-06-10 21:28:02] <etoile> i also don't want the measures they take to be so drastic they come off as suicidal
[2020-06-10 21:28:33] <Iszth> Amnestic images might be a bit vague, striking videos off the internet and taking down servers is a suprisingly common thing done by companies and governments irl
[2020-06-10 21:28:47] <Iszth> And it draws peoples attention to them more.
[2020-06-10 21:28:51] <etoile> what do you mean a bit vague
[2020-06-10 21:29:05] <etoile> ill consider the video thing but im not having the foundation bring reddit down
[2020-06-10 21:29:16] <etoile> that's, like, blatant shooting themselves in the foot
[2020-06-10 21:29:31] <Iszth> Spreading amnestic images into the public wouldnt really draw suspicion from the general public.
[2020-06-10 21:29:52] <Iszth> Not reddit, think like blogs and conspiracy sites, small time.
[2020-06-10 21:30:03] <etoile> people randomly forgetting about something they commented on last week would probably draw some attention
[2020-06-10 21:30:25] <etoile> mostly bc they'd reencounter it, or if high-profile enough get asked questions about it
[2020-06-10 21:30:26] <Iszth> For bigger sites, strikes are an easy way to get attention while being simple.
[2020-06-10 21:30:30] <etoile> nods
[2020-06-10 21:30:47] <etoile> i just dont wanna make them seem dumb about it
[2020-06-10 21:31:59] <Iszth> disseminating amnestic images into the public and having swathes of forgotten comments and posts would be more complicated and arguably more dumb on the foundations part
[2020-06-10 21:32:55] <Iszth> You could achieve the same effect just by having comments, posts and videos removed constantly.
[2020-06-10 21:33:31] <etoile> they literally do that though
[2020-06-10 21:33:59] <etoile> im operating off the hc that the foundation doesn't have the power/purview to just, immediately delete shit off the internet for good
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[2020-06-10 21:34:20] <etoile> what they Can do is post an image in a high-traffic spot then delete it themselves just as fast
[2020-06-10 21:34:32] <etoile> i think theyd do both but one is faster and arguably more effective
[2020-06-10 21:35:12] <Iszth> I know that, but the use of amnestics feels too over the top and not too bright on the Foundation's part.
[2020-06-10 21:35:37] <etoile> huh
[2020-06-10 21:35:41] <etoile> what makes you say that
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[2020-06-10 21:38:23] <Iszth> Wiping random people's memories on the internet feels like it would cause more issues than it would solve and I think the Foundation would be very aware of that.
[2020-06-10 21:39:36] <etoile> they don't get totally mindwiped
[2020-06-10 21:39:57] <etoile> but you might be right, but im also gonna seek more experienced writers opinions on it
[2020-06-10 21:40:10] <Iszth> I know, but using amnestics in such an uncontrolled environment feels kinda careless.
[2020-06-10 21:40:28] <etoile> ill probably do the taking servers down thing
[2020-06-10 21:40:55] <Iszth> I would use disinformation campaigns that more oppressive governments use to silence people
[2020-06-10 21:41:00] <etoile> man
[2020-06-10 21:41:05] <etoile> this is supposed to be funny
[2020-06-10 21:41:43] <etoile> or at least lighthearted
[2020-06-10 21:41:45] <Iszth> Oh it would be, the contrast of the Foundation taking something so seriously when its really not is fantastic
[2020-06-10 21:41:53] <etoile> ill probably take pages from that bookooh yeah ok
[2020-06-10 21:41:55] <etoile> good point
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[2020-06-10 21:42:19] <etoile> i think a minor point of humor here is that the foundation doesnt even have a site 50
[2020-06-10 21:42:24] <etoile> but, like
[2020-06-10 21:42:43] <Iszth> Yeah that's kinda funny.
[2020-06-10 21:42:58] <etoile> we're looking at "weird internet deep dive" youtubers making videos like "WHAT IS SITE-50?!?!" that get taken down 3 days later
[2020-06-10 21:43:00] <etoile> shit like that
[2020-06-10 21:43:59] <Iszth> Yep. And that would generate more posts and videos, and more would get taken down, and itd start spiralling out of control until they decide to chill.
[2020-06-10 21:44:22] <Iszth> At least thats how I think it would go down
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[2020-06-10 21:44:55] <etoile> got it
[2020-06-10 21:45:23] <etoile> how plausible do you think it is that everything would just die downactually this takes place in 2020 shit lasts 2 weeks. its fine
[2020-06-10 21:46:45] <Iszth> lol. I mean, strange things that get left i nthe public eye usually get forgotton about pretty quick. Remember the confirmed UFO by the US government?
[2020-06-10 21:47:36] <etoile> yup
[2020-06-10 21:47:41] <etoile> alright
[2020-06-10 21:47:48] <etoile> rubs my grimy little hands together
[2020-06-10 21:47:55] <etoile> time to generate a bunch of internet garbage

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